Basketball is actually the only sport that was developed solely in North America. Hockey, football and baseball all have their roots in sports first played in Europe but basketball was invented in the USA.

 

I know you were aiming more for a "where is the sport currently played" kind of thing but I thought it was an interesting something to share.

 

Don't forget volleyball and lacrosse.

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You kind of just made my point. All I stated was "soccer fans are unreasonably defensive about soccer". I didn't even say anything bad about your beloved sport, as I am very much enjoying the World Cup. However, the little I said was enough to illicit a "from the bottom of your broken heart" response. Chill out and quit being so defensive.

 

 

Like TMD said, the problem is you guys are so insistent on talking up your sport that you refuse to acknowledge any possible shortcomings. If I mentioned how lame the flopping has been, I'm sure it would illicit a "they fake injuries in all sports!!" response. If I mentioned that I think their celebrations are extreme, it would probably illicit a "you just don't understand the emotions!!" response.

 

I have no problem with talking about stupid NFL rules (like where teams kick from now), stupid MLB traditions (like coaches stalling the game by visiting the mound to allow their relief pitcher to warm up), or stupid NBA divas. For some reason, though, soccer fanboys get unreasonably defensive over any and all criticism of the game.

The simple answer was to your point is that those who bash it are just as "unreasoable" in the defense of it.

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Basketball is actually the only sport that was developed solely in North America. Hockey, football and baseball all have their roots in sports first played in Europe but basketball was invented in the USA.


I know you were aiming more for a "where is the sport currently played" kind of thing but I thought it was an interesting something to share.

And even basketball was invented by a Canadian.

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It stems from both, but is vastly different from both.

 

Again, baseball was invented in the United States. The fact that the idea came from a game in England played without gloves, with an 18 inch stick, where the batter must run whether they hit the ball or not does not change that fact. Does the first person to ever kick a ball get credit for inventing soccer? No. Likewise, the inventors of Rounders and/or Cricket do not get credit for the invention of baseball. Baseball is not Rounders or Cricket.

 

Baseball and cricket share a common ancestor in a game that is more akin to rounders than either baseball or cricket. Just like football, soccer and rugby all share a common ancestor as well. All these sports originated in Europe and evolved differently in different parts of the world. For example; football legalized the forward pass, while rugby never did.

 

Basketball is the only major sport which was not only developed in America but didn't actually have a European sport it was based on.

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And even basketball was invented by a Canadian.

 

And the Mayans played a form of basketball... like forever ago

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Baseball and cricket share a common ancestor in a game that is more akin to rounders than either baseball or cricket. Just like football, soccer and rugby all share a common ancestor as well. All these sports originated in Europe and evolved differently in different parts of the world. For example; football legalized the forward pass, while rugby never did.

 

Basketball is the only major sport which was not only developed in America but didn't actually have a European sport it was based on.

 

Once again:

Baseball was invented in the United States.

Does the first person to ever kick a ball get credit for inventing soccer? No.

Does the first person to roll a ball get credit for inventing bowling? No.

Does the first person to ever throw a ball in water get credited for inventing water polo? No.

 

 

The fact that the idea came from a game in England played without gloves, with an 18 inch stick, where the batter must run whether they hit the ball or not does not change the fact that baseball was invented in the United States.

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Once again:

Baseball was invented in the United States.

Does the first person to ever kick a ball get credit for inventing soccer? No.

Does the first person to roll a ball get credit for inventing bowling? No.

Does the first person to ever throw a ball in water get credited for inventing water polo? No.

 

 

The fact that the idea came from a game in England played without gloves, with an 18 inch stick, where the batter must run whether they hit the ball or not does not change the fact that baseball was invented in the United States.

 

Why does it matter where a sport was invented?

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Once again:
Baseball was invented in the United States.

Does the first person to ever kick a ball get credit for inventing soccer? No.

Does the first person to roll a ball get credit for inventing bowling? No.

Does the first person to ever throw a ball in water get credited for inventing water polo? No.



The fact that the idea came from a game in England played without gloves, with an 18 inch stick, where the batter must run whether they hit the ball or not does not change the fact that baseball was invented in the United States.

U mad?

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Why does it matter where a sport was invented?

 

It doesn't. Why does it matter that the sky is blue? It doesn't. However, if someone starts saying things like "the sky is green" I will correct them. When somebody is saying that baseball was invented in Europe, I will correct them.

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It doesn't. Why does it matter that the sky is blue? It doesn't. However, if someone starts saying things like "the sky is green" I will correct them. When somebody is saying that baseball was invented in Europe, I will correct them.

lol, nobody said that. And it really has nothing to do with the topic.


Whats odd is for someone who obviously does not care about soccer, you keep coming back to a thread about the World Cup.

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U mad?

 

Nope, but the soccer fanboys in here sure get mad over nothing. I posted a single sentence and got Carlo's meltdown of a life story in response.

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Once again:

Baseball was invented in the United States.

Does the first person to ever kick a ball get credit for inventing soccer? No.

Does the first person to roll a ball get credit for inventing bowling? No.

Does the first person to ever throw a ball in water get credited for inventing water polo? No.

 

 

The fact that the idea came from a game in England played without gloves, with an 18 inch stick, where the batter must run whether they hit the ball or not does not change the fact that baseball was invented in the United States.

Baseball wasn't invented anywhere. It evolved in America from a game that originated in Europe.

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lol, nobody said that. And it really has nothing to do with the topic.


Whats odd is for someone who obviously does not care about soccer, you keep coming back to a thread about the World Cup.

 

Why are you lying?

 

1. DragonFury did, in fact, say that baseball was invented in Europe. That is false.

2. I, in fact, said that I am enjoying the World Cup. My girlfriend is a soccer player (soccer girls = nice bodies), so it's fun to learn the game through her. You guys just defend the game to no end. If someone tells me they think baseball is boring I let them have their opinion. If I tell a soccer fan that soccer is boring (which I don't think it is), i get a 10 minute meltdown explanation of what attacking and 50/50 balls are. They mad?

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Nope, but the soccer fanboys in here sure get mad over nothing. I posted a single sentence and got Carlo's meltdown of a life story in response.

 

What's happening here is basically similar to if I were to walk into your home uninvited, started criticizing your decorating choices and then getting offended when you ask me to leave. This is a thread about soccer, of course you're going to find people who defend the sport in here.

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Baseball wasn't invented anywhere. It evolved in America from a game that originated in Europe.

 

"As it turns out, the real history of baseball is a little more complicated than the Doubleday legend. References to games resembling baseball in the United States date back to the 18th century. Its most direct ancestors appear to be two English games: rounders (a children’s game brought to New England by the earliest colonists) and cricket. By the time of the American Revolution, variations of such games were being played on schoolyards and college campuses across the country. They became even more popular in newly industrialized cities where men sought work in the mid-19th century. In September 1845, a group of New York City men founded the New York Knickerbocker Baseball Club. One of them—volunteer firefighter and bank clerk Alexander Joy Cartwright—would codify a new set of rules that would form the basis for modern baseball, calling for a diamond-shaped infield, foul lines and the three-strike rule. He also abolished the dangerous practice of tagging runners by throwing balls at them.

 

Cartwright’s changes made the burgeoning pastime faster-paced and more challenging while clearly differentiating it from older games like cricket. In 1846, the Knickerbockers played the first official game of baseball against a team of cricket players, beginning a new, uniquely American tradition."

 

 

 - http://www.history.com/news/ask-history/...d-baseball

 

 

Again, baseball was invented, developed, whatever you want to call it in the United States. Baseball is not rounders and it is not crickent.

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Why are you lying?

 

1. DragonFury did, in fact, say that baseball was invented in Europe. That is false.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

 

I said baseball originated from a game that was brought to America from Europe. I also said the only sport to be completely developed in America is basketball. I never even remotely said baseball was invented in Europe.

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Biography: 
Alexander Cartwright is often referred to as The Father of Modern baseball. Though the appellation may be an overstatement, Cartwright was a founding and influential member of the Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York City, baseball's first organized club. Cartwright likely played a key role in formalizing the first published rules of the game, including the concept of foul territory, the distance between bases, three-out innings, and the elimination of retiring baserunners by throwing batted baseballs at them.

 

http://baseballhall.org/hof/cartwright-alexander

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"As it turns out, the real history of baseball is a little more complicated than the Doubleday legend. References to games resembling baseball in the United States date back to the 18th century. Its most direct ancestors appear to be two English games: rounders (a children’s game brought to New England by the earliest colonists) and cricket. By the time of the American Revolution, variations of such games were being played on schoolyards and college campuses across the country. They became even more popular in newly industrialized cities where men sought work in the mid-19th century. In September 1845, a group of New York City men founded the New York Knickerbocker Baseball Club. One of them—volunteer firefighter and bank clerk Alexander Joy Cartwright—would codify a new set of rules that would form the basis for modern baseball, calling for a diamond-shaped infield, foul lines and the three-strike rule. He also abolished the dangerous practice of tagging runners by throwing balls at them.

 

Cartwright’s changes made the burgeoning pastime faster-paced and more challenging while clearly differentiating it from older games like cricket. In 1846, the Knickerbockers played the first official game of baseball against a team of cricket players, beginning a new, uniquely American tradition."

 

 

 - http://www.history.com/news/ask-history/...d-baseball

 

 

Again, baseball was invented, developed, whatever you want to call it in the United States. Baseball is not rounders and it is not crickent.

 

Did you just completely miss the underlined or did you intentional ignore it?

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Basketball is actually the only sport that was developed solely in North America. Hockey, football and baseball all have their roots in sports first played in Europe but basketball was invented in the USA.

 

I know you were aiming more for a "where is the sport currently played" kind of thing but I thought it was an interesting something to share.

 

Forgive me for thinking that implies that baseball was invented elsewhere. I'll ask you so we can clear up any miscommunication

 

Where was baseball invented (ie: where was the first rules of "baseball", not rounders or cricket published)?

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Did you just completely miss the underlined or did you intentional ignore it?

 

 

I've already covered that.

 

"Once again:

Baseball was invented in the United States.

Does the first person to ever kick a ball get credit for inventing soccer? No.

Does the first person to roll a ball get credit for inventing bowling? No.

Does the first person to ever throw a ball in water get credited for inventing water polo? No"

 

Just because baseball's "ancestors", rounders and cricket, were invented in Europe does not mean that baseball was invented in Europe.

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