Yeah you keep hanging on to that one word think out of that whole comment to justify he's just giving his opinion on a job where he's called a nfl insider.

You do understand what it means when he says "I think" right?  He didn't offer any supporting information behind that beyond HIS opinion.  I know this is getting confusing because people like you struggle to distinguish between an opinion and fact on  a pretty regular basis.  I'm not really expecting you to grasp the point, but others will. 

 

As an NFL insider, I would venture to guess that he'd have about as much insight into what's going on with the Jaguars as anyone else in the media.  That's not saying much.  The truth is, the team has extended requests to interview multiple coaches, and they have indeed actually interviewed guys already, so the claim that people are shying away from anything is completely bogus based on what's actually happening.  I know you're not smart enough to think beyond what that glowing square with moving pictures in your parent's basement tells you to think, so I'm going to leave it at that.  Again, others will understand the difference between fact and opinion. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

My only concern is that Dave hires someone with prior successful experience as an OC. Given that we have so much inexperience on the field, it seems to me that having a rookie OC would just compound an already 'challenging' situation. I would seriously lean toward getting an experienced play caller.

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I y'ams who I y'ams and thats all I y'ams...

My only concern is that Dave hires someone with prior successful experience as an OC. Given that we have so much inexperience on the field, it seems to me that having a rookie OC would just compound an already 'challenging' situation. I would seriously lean toward getting an experienced play caller.

Dave isn't doing the OC hiring.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

That's expected when the guys you are interviewing may be equally qualified or even more qualified than the coach.

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Yes someone who has more knowledge about the nfl than this entire board combined thinks this team is a dumpster fire. Well guess what? Occam's razor would imply it is a dumpster fire and not a conspiracy.


This team sucks. Until proven otherwise there's no reason good candidates would argue otherwise. This HC and Owner has a shirt track record.

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Thats some [BAD WORD REMOVED]. If anything the candidates should be thinking about this OC job as a challenge.
IF someone was able to turn our offense around with this upcoming Defense then I think we can win more games if we add the missing pieces(Stud FS, LEO, RT) People are full of [BAD WORD REMOVED] if they wouldn't take this job. For a young offensive team we sparked a bit on some plays which showed some hope for the future. Nothing comes easy and if people don't want this job, they don't deserve any other job in the NFL. 

Yeah I always pick jobs that look like 'a challenge' (i.e. that suck) over better more established jobs. People throw out that line when they are rationaziling why they ended up in the second tier. Everybody wants to work with a offense like Atlantas so they can look good. Not ours.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

There is a preference order where available talent will go - where can I advance, is the talent there to leverage are just some of the things people look at when making this kind of job decision. Unfortunately the Jags don't have the franchise history or upside to be attractive at this point. One of the reasons I think we'll make a hire after the coaching staffs settle a bit, and why I think it will be a college OC.

This is exactly what will happen IMO as well.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Tried to tell that idiot FBT that nobody who will really change things will come here on a 16 game tryout and then be fired when we have another losing season. Whether it's Clayton's opinion or not I find it hard to believe he just pulled that out of his [BAD WORD REMOVED] just to give some Jaguars news up. The most irrelevant team in the league. Clayton is more connected to NFL people than some frustrated Jaguars message board fans that are mad someone is putting out less than stellar news about their team.


This is not a "plum" job or a challenge, it is a damn train wreck that is one season away from seeing the whole coaching staff being replaced. This is exactly why you do not bring in an inexperienced coach on a team that is trying an experiment that is rebuilding with all young players. Gus Bradley doesn't know what the hell he's doing and is trying to smile his way thru this disaster. Clayton doesn't have a track record of saying stuff that just doesn't make sense. Vic used to hold him in high regard so I tend to believe him on what I already knew.

The narrative you paint is where I think we are currently at. I was surprised we fired Fisch, I don't think we will get an upgrade. I mean our team looks ripe for turnover. The only guys we can get who have  experience are the ones who just flammed out at their previous gig. I hope it works out well, but I am not sure I think it will.

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http://youtu.be/XQRFkn0Ly3A Media on the Brain Link!
 

Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

All I know is this new coordinator has to love ICE CREAM

And Unicorns?

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http://youtu.be/XQRFkn0Ly3A Media on the Brain Link!
 

Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Question is how in the hell the special teams coach gets to keep his job? Bradley had one position to fill now he's letting all the coaches get hired taking all candidates that are worth any damn go elsewhere. Wouldn't be surprised if he got somebody from high school for the position. He did hire the scapegoat that was Fisch who was all the offensive problems here in the 1st place.

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Question is how in the hell the special teams coach gets to keep his job? Bradley had one position to fill now he's letting all the coaches get hired taking all candidates that are worth any damn go elsewhere. Wouldn't be surprised if he got somebody from high school for the position. He did hire the scapegoat that was Fisch who was all the offensive problems here in the 1st place.

 

If you watched the Caldwell and Bradley press conferences, I don't remember which one, but one of them blamed themself for the special teams problems.   They said the special teams problems were due to some personnel decisions they made or had to make.   The cited core special teams players that were either cut or had to move to starting jobs due to injuries, and that resulted in some poor special teams plays. 

 

Fans look at results and say, fire this guy, while the head coach and GM see the day to day coaching the guy is doing and are much better able to evaluate whether the guy can coach or not. 

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Since Trestman was approached several days ago and has apparently not interviewed yet, he probably has preferences for a different job(s).

 

Gus has picked several RB position coaches to interview.  From that I reason that he is looking for an OC who can improve the running game and the blocking of the OL for the running game.  That may lead to the new OC picking a RB to draft this spring and probably having input into which OL the Jaguars acquire in the offseason.  Bortles would then become the primary responsibility of the QB coach.

 

The running game may naturally improve as Joeckel, Bowanko, and Linder gain more strength during the offseason and have an offseason to build a cooperative effort.  Gus' philosophy is that the offense is 50% run and 50% pass.  So it makes since that he would bring in an OC who can improve the Jaguars' running game.

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If you watched the Caldwell and Bradley press conferences, I don't remember which one, but one of them blamed themself for the special teams problems.   They said the special teams problems were due to some personnel decisions they made or had to make.   The cited core special teams players that were either cut or had to move to starting jobs due to injuries, and that resulted in some poor special teams plays. 

 

Fans look at results and say, fire this guy, while the head coach and GM see the day to day coaching the guy is doing and are much better able to evaluate whether the guy can coach or not. 

That's the thing about special teams.  Fans only pay attention to the end result and rarely bother to look at cause and effect. 

 

This was already a very young team.  With the way they were having to address roster issues throughout the season, they were never able to establish any sort of cohesion with special teams.    I don't care how good the coach is.  If you're trotting different guys out there in key roles every week, that does have an impact.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

This wouldn't surprise me, the Jaguars have similar skill players to the Packers (Allen Robinson/Jordy Nelson/Marqise Lee/Randall Cobb), both Lee and Robinson are dynamic after the catch, it'd make sense to implement a West Coast offense to take advantage of those skillsets, I believe the Packers run a ZBS as well. I'd be ecstatic if we hired Bennett.

Cobb is a F/A too and with Adams emergence and they have to pay a lot of guys soon Cobb may walk.

He could come here and replace Shorts. 

Arob/Cobb/Lee

 

Not too shabby?

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Cobb is a F/A too and with Adams emergence and they have to pay a lot of guys soon Cobb may walk.

He could come here and replace Shorts. 

Arob/Cobb/Lee

 

Not too shabby?

 

Randall Cobb is an outstanding receiver; I'm just not sure the investment makes sense, mainly because Lee and Cobb are similar players. If you sign Cobb he'd essentially play the role of Lee, I'd like to see those snaps go to Lee as I think he can develop into a special weapon. A receiver that might make more sense for the Jags is Torrey Smith, he'd be cheaper than Cobb but more importantly, we don't have anyone on this roster that can consistently take the "top" off a defense, Marqise Lee is fast but Smith has world class speed. I can see a situation where Smith and A-Rob our are outside guys, while Lee is the "move" receiver, throw in a  legit weapon at TE and all of sudden the Jaguars have the look of a dynamic offense with matchup nightmares everywhere.

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Randall Cobb is an outstanding receiver; I'm just not sure the investment makes sense, mainly because Lee and Cobb are similar players. If you sign Cobb he'd essentially play the role of Lee, I'd like to see those snaps go to Lee as I think he can develop into a special weapon. A receiver that might make more sense for the Jags is Torrey Smith, he'd be cheaper than Cobb but more importantly, we don't have anyone on this roster that can consistently take the "top" off a defense, Marqise Lee is fast but Smith has world class speed. I can see a situation where Smith and A-Rob our are outside guys, while Lee is the "move" receiver, throw in a  legit weapon at TE and all of sudden the Jaguars have the look of a dynamic offense with matchup nightmares everywhere.

Didn't realize Torrey Smith was a free agent... he'd probably come cheaper

 

The difference in Cobb and Smith's 40 times is .03


however I do see your point on the similarities of Cobb and Lee.

 

Personally I think having a "vet mentor" for the WRs is over-rated and would much rather spend the money on a legit TE threat. But after Thomas the drop off in talent is big. Cameron has talent but an injury history, Clay is an H back type... Gresham has been a disappointment as a 1st round pick, but maybe he could be had kind of cheap and break out...

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The running game may naturally improve as Joeckel, Bowanko, and Linder gain more strength during the offseason and have an offseason to build a cooperative effort.  Gus' philosophy is that the offense is 50% run and 50% pass.  So it makes since that he would bring in an OC who can improve the Jaguars' running game.

 

To that end, I heard the o-linemen plan to spend the offseason playing Settlers of Catan for long hours in Bowanko's basement, hitting up the paintball range to mobilize against pimply teenagers, and taking turns catching each other falling backward. 

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Didn't realize Torrey Smith was a free agent... he'd probably come cheaper

 

The difference in Cobb and Smith's 40 times is .03

however I do see your point on the similarities of Cobb and Lee.

 

Personally I think having a "vet mentor" for the WRs is over-rated and would much rather spend the money on a legit TE threat. But after Thomas the drop off in talent is big. Cameron has talent but an injury history, Clay is an H back type... Gresham has been a disappointment as a 1st round pick, but maybe he could be had kind of cheap and break out...

 

I'm not sure what the official 40 times are, but Cobb plays like a 4.5 guy while Smith looks like a 4.3 guy, his speed is evident on the field by the eye test and his career 17 YPC compared to Cobbs 13.4, I'd be ecstatic with either guy in all honesty. I'm in agreement with you that TE is a bigger need than receiver, I'd be happy with either Thomas, Cameron, or Clay, any of those guys would instantly be the best pass catching TE in Jaguar history, which is a sad thought haha.

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http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/1/14/7...c-position

 

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"It was a very curious move for Gus Bradley to fire Jedd Fisch. They were such good friends and all that. Hey, you go to a rookie quarterback, and the expectations are you're only going to get 14-16 points a game. That's reality, particularly knowing they didn't have a running game. So, Rick Dennison can be a candidate, but I think a lot of people are shying away from the job because it's going to take some time for this team to build up."

 

The excuse for lack of talent is not a valid one for an exceptional coach wishing for the title of OC in the NFL.   Did Hall of Fame Coach Joe Gibbs simply give up almost his entire team gave up on him and went on strike & so called scrubs stepped up to play?  No he coached them up...

 

A good coach doesnt back away from a challenge, they walk towards them...

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I think we should go get a new QB coach too. We need someone who has nfl experience.

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