Why? He's a bum. He takes so many plays off it's like he's on vacation 90% of the time.

 

I'd rather have Ayers or Bosa than Williams.

Ayers had 9.5 sacks last year operating in a environment devoid of talent around him. Those sacks are basically unassisted.

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Vernon was the way-too-drunk girl at the bar. Caldwell was the gentleman that passed on that, but the GNats werent. Appreciate you DC, you are a good Samaritan.

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So basically, the Jaguars were nothing more than a pawn to drive the Giants' price up. I know it happens all the time, but it's particularly classy when a player openly brags about how he knew from the start he didn't want to be in a certain city, then keeps that team in it for hours, drawing focus away from other players in the process, just to make the team he wants to land with bring their offer up.

 

Enjoy New York. We'll be laughing when Dante Fowler picks up 12 sacks next year and you get 8.

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So basically, the Jaguars were nothing more than a pawn to drive the Giants' price up. I know it happens all the time, but it's particularly classy when a player openly brags about how he knew from the start he didn't want to be in a certain city, then keeps that team in it for hours, drawing focus away from other players in the process, just to make the team he wants to land with bring their offer up.

 

Enjoy New York. We'll be laughing when Dante Fowler picks up 12 sacks next year and you get 6.

 

FTFY

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

I can't speak to the OP's motives, but to me, there is a difference between expressing disappointment the team did not land a particular player and placing sole blame on the team for not landing the player.

 

Sometimes, guys simply want to play elsewhere.

 

I wanted Williams or, as a consolation, Vernon. 

 

For whatever reason, both guys decided to sign elsewhere.

Oh, it's disappointing to go aggressively after a certain player only to end up the bridesmaid, but that's how it goes sometimes.  They targeted 5 guys yesterday and landed 4.  By any measure, that's pretty good, and to get a pro bowl safety with a reasonable deal is just icing on the cake.  They'll find their pass rush guys somewhere, if they're not already on the roster. 

 

The Jags had interest in Williams, but I think that when Miami came calling, the front office may have seen that as an opportunity to get the younger guy on the rise, so they rolled the dice figuring that with the tag, they could front load a deal that Miami would never match, and we'd have the guy who was a better fit for the build model this team is following. 

 

When Miami removed the tag, that blew up our strategy, IMO.  And that's fine.  We still went after him, and we were willing to pay what the market demanded.  NY just had a little more juice.  Based on the limited overall production, maybe that's a good thing.  We'll see.

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I know, but you recognize how a certain sect on this board has reacted to the fact that he wasn't signed.  Just look at the OP on this thread.  For some, they're not happy if they don't have something to complain about regarding this team.  It's their shtick. 

 

I would love to get my hands on the MB database to run some analysis about what percentage of your 61,000 posts are spent in an attempt to belittle someone with an opinion. I'm thinking 68%.

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I would love to get my hands on the MB database to run some analysis about what percentage of your 61,000 posts are spent in an attempt to belittle someone with an opinion. I'm thinking 68%.

Truth stings, huh?

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Truth stings, huh?

 

68.2%

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So basically, the Jaguars were nothing more than a pawn to drive the Giants' price up. I know it happens all the time, but it's particularly classy when a player openly brags about how he knew from the start he didn't want to be in a certain city, then keeps that team in it for hours, drawing focus away from other players in the process, just to make the team he wants to land with bring their offer up.


Enjoy New York. We'll be laughing when Dante Fowler picks up 12 sacks next year and you get 8.

I really don't think it effected how free agency went for us. The window to negotiate for Vernon was small (because of how late the transition tag was removed), and I'm sure Caldwell had a plan just in case Vernon wasn't signed.


Still, Vernon is a turd. Happy we dodged a guy like that. All about the money, and will probably use New York as a vacation.

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Still, Vernon is a turd. Happy we dodged a guy like that. All about the money, and will probably use New York as a vacation.

Paying him more than JJ Watt for 2/5s of the production is insane, actually makes the Malik signing look even better.  I still think not getting Vernon is the best thing we did yesterday.  Driving up the price for the NYG is nice too, they spent a lot of money yesterday in a more reckless fashion than us.

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2016 draft players I think will be good

• On the Fournette train, will be best back of his class 3/6/17
  
• Lattimore please,  Lockdowns on both sides would be nice
  
• Engram at TE and the MJD clone Samaje Perine
  

Can you imagine the threads that the bibbers would have started had the Jags signed Vernon and he put up pedestrian numbers to start the season.

 

I can read it now, "Dave is a sucker. He got played by a dead beat player again!"

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Can you imagine the threads that the bibbers would have started had the Jags signed Vernon and he put up pedestrian numbers to start the season.

 

I can read it now, "Dave is a sucker. He got played by a dead beat player again!"

 

I know. Fans expecting results from high profile free agents is freaking ridiculous. Losers!

 

Listen to what you just wrote. You successfully completed the masters program from the College of FBT.

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I would love to get my hands on the MB database to run some analysis about what percentage of your 61,000 posts are spent in an attempt to belittle someone with an opinion. I'm thinking 68%.

As FBT would say: "it's his shtick."

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I would love to get my hands on the MB database to run some analysis about what percentage of your 61,000 posts are spent in an attempt to belittle someone with an opinion. I'm thinking 68%.

These days it's about 100%.


In 68% of the cases it's completely justified. This one included. Some opinions just deserve belittling.

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I know, but you recognize how a certain sect on this board has reacted to the fact that he wasn't signed.  Just look at the OP on this thread.  For some, they're not happy if they don't have something to complain about regarding this team.  It's their shtick.

And you whine over the whiners, that's your shtick.

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Buuwwwaaaa! You mad bro? Don't like this "board"? Leave. Your opinions won't be missed.

 

Vernon chose a city, not a team. He wanted out of Florida. I hope he gets all the northern hospitality he can stand. His mindset is on display in that article and it's a mindset that made a decision based on geographic location vs football reasons.

You homers who love losing are amazing.  You guys love punishment and anyone who does not like being beaten disloyal.  

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How many time has mommy put you in the corner today for your hissy fits?

As many times as the front office has been right

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Oh, it's disappointing to go aggressively after a certain player only to end up the bridesmaid, but that's how it goes sometimes.  They targeted 5 guys yesterday and landed 4.  By any measure, that's pretty good, and to get a pro bowl safety with a reasonable deal is just icing on the cake.  They'll find their pass rush guys somewhere, if they're not already on the roster. 

 

The Jags had interest in Williams, but I think that when Miami came calling, the front office may have seen that as an opportunity to get the younger guy on the rise, so they rolled the dice figuring that with the tag, they could front load a deal that Miami would never match, and we'd have the guy who was a better fit for the build model this team is following. 

 

When Miami removed the tag, that blew up our strategy, IMO.  And that's fine.  We still went after him, and we were willing to pay what the market demanded.  NY just had a little more juice.  Based on the limited overall production, maybe that's a good thing.  We'll see.

I wonder do homers who love losing think that they do not deserve to win or that the goal is to constantly lose

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lovethe jags absolutely

I wonder do homers who love losing think that they do not deserve to win or that the goal is to constantly lose

I'll defer to you when it comes to expertise on being a loser.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

And you whine over the whiners, that's your shtick.

Yeah, I think we have different definitions of what whining actually is, but again, you come from that segment of the fan base I'm referring to.

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