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Debate 9/26/16 - Trump vs Clinton


Was listening to a British talk show host earlier who made a valid point. The reason why nobody will change their mind on trump being their guy is because the alternative is admitting they were wrong for the last 30 years and voting against their own interests. The American dream they have been sold where improving workplace conditions or wages was lefty liberal rubbish or voting for a war mongering Bush clearly was not in their interests.

 

So now a guy has turned up and given them a whole load of scapegoats from Mexicans, Muslims or corporate tax rates and they are willing to swallow them all without question no matter how much of it is clearly nonsense, because the alternative is admitting they have been conned. 


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Quote:You can't debunk something we all saw. Seriously, he may think the average American is dumb but come on.
 

You're absolutely right.  We all saw it.  Then we all saw him use the same theatrical device to portray other people as being "deer in the headlights" way before the scene with this individual.  So yeh, he made fun of the guy but he wasn't targeting his disability. 

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Quote:Doesn't matter..  anything said against him is media spin and every one of them wishes their children would behave exactly like him.  He should be sainted by the time the election rolls around.
 

DO YOU REALIZE THE WOMAN IS A RAPE APPOLOGIST???

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(This post was last modified: 09-29-2016, 07:12 AM by jj82284.)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/...im-up.html

 

I know this may be hard for some...  but this is where the healing begins. 


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Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/14/did-trump-really-mock-reporters-disability-videos-could-back-him-up.html'>http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/14/did-trump-really-mock-reporters-disability-videos-could-back-him-up.html</a>


I know this may be hard for some... but this is where the healing begins.
In what reality do you think that that's OK? The only person's opinion that matters, and he's already spoken on it, is the individual he was making fun of. If you're OK with this kind of behavior, it says a heck of a lot more about you and what kind of person you are.


My goodness he's running for the bloody presidency and acting like a junior in high school.
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Quote:DO YOU REALIZE THE WOMAN IS A RAPE APPOLOGIST???


Not really. She's not an apologist either. She got a guy accused of rape a decreased sentence when she was a lawyer in a case she tried to get out of defending. If Trump would have done this, all he would need to do is say he was good at his job and you'd be satisfied.
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Quote:I make my own decisions and am not influenced by the corrupt media. If that is an apologist, then I guess I am one.


Your opinions are based on his words. His actions show he's a "smart business man" one that does the exact opposite of what he says.


A person that believes the words of a salesman while ignoring the salesman's actions is being played.
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Quote:In what reality do you think that that's OK? The only person's opinion that matters, and he's already spoken on it, is the individual he was making fun of. If you're OK with this kind of behavior, it says a heck of a lot more about you and what kind of person you are.


My goodness he's running for the bloody presidency and acting like a junior in high school.


You are being ridiculous. The fair and balanced FOX News clearly cited irrefutable evidence from donalddidntdoit.com. You're blinded by the corrupt media.
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Quote:You can't fault a guy for waiting to capitalize on a crash. You should focus your hate on pharmaceutical CEO's raising the prices of life saving EpiPen's to $600 bucks instead of a sound investor.


Wow.


You know they are the same thing. Both are signs of scum bag business philosophy...
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Quote:In what reality do you think that that's OK? The only person's opinion that matters, and he's already spoken on it, is the individual he was making fun of. If you're OK with this kind of behavior, it says a heck of a lot more about you and what kind of person you are.


My goodness he's running for the bloody presidency and acting like a junior in high school.
 

Not true, all a person has control over is the intent with which he makes a comment or a jesture.  As shown above this was a device that he used about multiple people implying "deer in the headlights" it has nothing to do with a persons physical disability. 

 

Moreover, i care about someones ability to actually RUN the country.  In the case of Mrs. Clinton we are dealing with a woman who was having a philosophical debate about wardrobe (literally had potential response teams change clothes four times) during an attack where Americans were dying (Benghazi).  She also negotiated a deal with the most hardline elements of Iran (while lying to the American public) based on a non proliferation structure that has already failed to prevent NK from breaking out as a Nuclear power. 

 

Not to mention the fact that she has called me and people who think as i do Deplorables racist sexist biggot homophobes just because we don't want to hand over more of our money to the US treasury. 

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Quote:Not really. She's not an apologist either. She got a guy accused of rape a decreased sentence when she was a lawyer in a case she tried to get out of defending. If Trump would have done this, all he would need to do is say he was good at his job and you'd be satisfied.
 

 

There is mounting a defense of someone based on rules of evidence, and then there is trying to discredit and attack the character of a Twelve year old girl who has pelvic scarring and can no longer have children, then laughing about it.  This also follows a pattern by which she has been the lead attack dog against the women that her Husband has abused enabling God knows what that we haven't heard about and disgracing the country with what we do know.  She has called women narcissistic looney tunes psycho stalkers and the like while telling the truth.

 

She has also taken money from Saudi Arabia and on behalf of her aide Huma Abedin and her mother given credibility and cover to the treatment of Saudi women including Marital rape, genital mutilation, spousal abuse, mandated dress etc. etc. etc. 

 

There is no defending her record on women. 

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Quote:Wow.


You know they are the same thing. Both are signs of scum bag business philosophy...
 

Have you ever purchased anything from a going out of business sale? If so, that is a pretty scum bag business philosophy on your part. Paying less for items other customers paid retail for.

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Trump can run this country. Right into bankruptcy.


For someone that is always freaking out about our budget deficits, why are you ok with tv's trillions of debt his economic policies would put us in?


How do you square that circle?
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Quote:Was listening to a British talk show host earlier who made a valid point. The reason why nobody will change their mind on trump being their guy is because the alternative is admitting they were wrong for the last 30 years and voting against their own interests. The American dream they have been sold where improving workplace conditions or wages was lefty liberal rubbish or voting for a war mongering Bush clearly was not in their interests.

 

So now a guy has turned up and given them a whole load of scapegoats from Mexicans, Muslims or corporate tax rates and they are willing to swallow them all without question no matter how much of it is clearly nonsense, because the alternative is admitting they have been conned. 
 

You and your talk show buddy couldn't be more clueless.  You really looked like an ignorant fool with your "manufacturing jobs would only bring McDonalds levels wages anyway", but now you are doubling down with even more ignorance.

 

Many voters like myself hate the Bush family now (care to notice how Jeb did in the primaries??).  Most are embarrassed to have voted for them, because they are frauds (like most politicians on both sides of the spectrum). This is why Trump is so popular, because he's perceived as an outsider.  It's really that simple.

 

Illegal immigration is not a scapegoat. It's real. Islamic terrorism is not a scapegoat. It's real, stupid [BLEEP].  The [BLEEP] going on in Syria is real and people want it to stop, not MORE OF THE SAME.  Corporate tax rates are high. That's a fact. Trade deals allow companies to get away with slave wages and sell high here.  That's a fact.

 

This has nothing to do with pride.

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I think there are more "closet" voters for Trump than we realize. Obama is already counting on Democrats being lazy (like usual) and pushing them to get out to vote saying not voting is a vote for Trump. The only question is, will they put down their handouts long enough to go and vote? I'm hoping no.


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Quote:I think there are more "closet" voters for Trump than we realize. Obama is already counting on Democrats being lazy (like usual) and pushing them to get out to vote saying not voting is a vote for Trump. The only question is, will they put down their handouts long enough to go and vote? I'm hoping no.
 

but but "the ground game"

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Quote:but but "the ground game"
 

Trump raised 18M the day after the debate and counting. I'm pretty sure he will be stepping up the ground game in the swing states as well.

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Quote:There is mounting a defense of someone based on rules of evidence, and then there is trying to discredit and attack the character of a Twelve year old girl who has pelvic scarring and can no longer have children, then laughing about it. This also follows a pattern by which she has been the lead attack dog against the women that her Husband has abused enabling God knows what that we haven't heard about and disgracing the country with what we do know. She has called women narcissistic looney tunes psycho stalkers and the like while telling the truth.


She has also taken money from Saudi Arabia and on behalf of her aide Huma Abedin and her mother given credibility and cover to the treatment of Saudi women including Marital rape, genital mutilation, spousal abuse, mandated dress etc. etc. etc.


There is no defending her record on women.


Ok. Let's just assume you are 100% right. I won't even waste time pointing out things you are saying which are not true. Is Trump a champion for women's rights? Not even close. He is a misogynist whose VP wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. Maybe that explains why there's a significant gap among women voters in favor of Hillary.
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Just curious.

A guy calls your wife, gf, daughter, grand daughter....fat, disgusting pig...the list goes on. What would you do?

Is it different if this guy says this stuff, but not about anyone related to you?
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(This post was last modified: 09-29-2016, 11:07 AM by badger.)

Quote:Just curious.

A guy calls your wife, gf, daughter, grand daughter....fat, disgusting pig...the list goes on. What would you do?

Is it different if this guy says this stuff, but not about anyone related to you?
 

dear lord he's running for President, not Pastor of the United States

 

you can be an [BLEEP] and still be good at your job


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