I'd be happy with Fournette even if he was taken too 5. Can move on from Yeldon and still successfully use Ivory

---

The fascination on here with taking a RB with our 1st rounder is pretty damn hilarious.

---

The fascination on here with taking a RB with our 1st rounder is pretty damn hilarious.

 

 

 

Why? Look what Ezekial Elliott has done for the Cowboys. Fournette is the same type of talent. As long as we address the O-Line needs in the following 2-3 rounds or in free agency, I think it would be a good plan.

---

The fascination on here with taking a RB with our 1st rounder is pretty damn hilarious.

Yeah, God forbid we take a generational talent. You are overthinking this big time.

---

Back to back years with 'generational talents.' At the same position no less. That's wild. 

 

Generational talent RB taken top 10 in the last 10 years.

The hits:

Adrian Peterson

Ezekiel Elliott (probably) 

Todd Gurley (maaaaybe)

 

Misses: 

Trent Richardson

CJ Spiller

Reggie Bush

Darren McFadden

 

So we have 7 generational talents in the last decade (maybe we should retire that phrase) and being generous you can only call 3 of them hits, two of which are premature. Hell if we only go back 11 years we can add 3 more top 5 RBs to the list with Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, and Cedric Benson. Some pretty solid years mixed in there among those 3, but none of them would go near that high on any kind of redraft mocks.

 

That would make 1 hit, 2 hopefully/maybe, and 7 nopes...perhaps it's worth overthinking.

---

Also, even if Fournette is as good as advertised there is no guarantee he's good behind an average oline and bad QB. Gurley has a bad QB and average oline and he is being outgained in yards per carry by Yeldon this year by a whole half yard, 3.0 to 3.5. 

 

How about we just draft a pass rusher (or Peppers/Adams of course) and work on fixing the QB situation. If that happens the RB situation will most likely be just fine, and if it doesn't it we will struggle whether we have Fournette or the duo we have now. 

---

Back to back years with 'generational talents.' At the same position no less. That's wild.


Generational talent RB taken top 10 in the last 10 years.

The hits:

Adrian Peterson

Ezekiel Elliott (probably)

Todd Gurley (maaaaybe)


Misses:

Trent Richardson

CJ Spiller

Reggie Bush

Darren McFadden


So we have 7 generational talents in the last decade (maybe we should retire that phrase) and being generous you can only call 3 of them hits, two of which are premature. Hell if we only go back 11 years we can add 3 more top 5 RBs to the list with Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, and Cedric Benson. Some pretty solid years mixed in there among those 3, but none of them would go near that high on any kind of redraft mocks.


That would make 1 hit, 2 hopefully/maybe, and 7 nopes...perhaps it's worth overthinking.

Who in the world called half the guy you listed as generational? Oh, and some draft picks busted? Who would've thought!?


I really like the idea of draft Myles Garrett but Clowney looks like a bust. Darn.


The rational of not drafting a player like Fournette because of OL isn't good right now is terrible too. Use your cap space and other draft picks and fix the line. If you were running our team in 1998 you would've skipped over Fred Taylor because we just spent a high draft pick in James Stewart.

---

Keep building the trenches (on either side of the ball).

---

Who in the world called half the guy you listed as generational? Oh, and some draft picks busted? Who would've thought!?


I really like the idea of draft Myles Garrett but Clowney looks like a bust. Darn.


The rational of not drafting a player like Fournette because of OL isn't good right now is terrible too. Use your cap space and other draft picks and fix the line. If you were running our team in 1998 you would've skipped over Fred Taylor because we just spent a high draft pick in James Stewart.

Plenty of people were, I heard it a lot about Trich, Bush, and Run DMC. If you are taking arguably the most replaceable position on the field in the top 10 he better be a generational talent and he better not miss. 

 

My argument wasn't to build the oline and get a running game, my argument was that if the QB is playing at a franchise level then being average at RB and oline is perfectly fine and if it isn't then it doesn't matter. If the QB is great and the oline and RB are average then you are competing for Super Bowls. If the QB is average and the oline/RB are great then you are competing for wild cards and early exits. Look at AD, best RB of this generation behind a lot of very good olines and he is 1-4 in the playoffs with the one win coming when Favre had his last MVP caliber season. 

 

I'm not totally against an RB in the top 10 either, there just needs to not be another premium player at a premium position available. In the 1998 draft there wasn't anything else premium left so Fred at 9 was fine. In this draft if we happen to be drafting 9 and Garrett, Allen, McDowell, Peppers, and maybe even Adams/Barnett are already gone then sure grab the stud RB prospect...just not in the top 5 with one of those premium players at a premium position guaranteed to still be on the board.

---

Back to back years with 'generational talents.' At the same position no less. That's wild. 

 

Generational talent RB taken top 10 in the last 10 years.

The hits:

Adrian Peterson

Ezekiel Elliott (probably) 

Todd Gurley (maaaaybe)

 

Misses: 

Trent Richardson

CJ Spiller

Reggie Bush

Darren McFadden

 

So we have 7 generational talents in the last decade (maybe we should retire that phrase) and being generous you can only call 3 of them hits, two of which are premature. Hell if we only go back 11 years we can add 3 more top 5 RBs to the list with Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, and Cedric Benson. Some pretty solid years mixed in there among those 3, but none of them would go near that high on any kind of redraft mocks.

 

That would make 1 hit, 2 hopefully/maybe, and 7 nopes...perhaps it's worth overthinking.

 

LOL. Maybe Bush. Find me one person that called Richardson, Spiller or McFadden a "generational talent".

---

;

;

Why? Look what Ezekial Elliott has done for the Cowboys. Fournette is the same type of talent. As long as we address the O-Line needs in the following 2-3 rounds or in free agency, I think it would be a good plan.

 

Because the Cowboys spent 3 first-round picks on the OL and had a surefire 1st-rounder go undrafted because of legal issues? They let those guys develop together for a few years and *then* went and got their guy at RB. Caldwell doesn't have the time to keep sucking for three more years hoping that any new OL draft picks/FAs develop/gel together so that Leonard could finally run behind a line that isn't garbage.

---

Yeah, God forbid we take a generational talent. You are overthinking this big time.

 

I'd rather grab an actual pass-rusher than waste a pick on a RB.

---

I'd rather grab an actual pass-rusher than waste a pick on a RB.

Yeah I would too but I won't pass on a better talent to reach for a pass rusher. I've gone on record here saying I prefer Garrett or Allen but if they are off the board I wouldn't pass on Fournette because he's a RB.

---

Because the Cowboys spent 3 first-round picks on the OL and had a surefire 1st-rounder go undrafted because of legal issues? They let those guys develop together for a few years and *then* went and got their guy at RB. Caldwell doesn't have the time to keep sucking for three more years hoping that any new OL draft picks/FAs develop/gel together so that Leonard could finally run behind a line that isn't garbage.

 

That is why I want to spend at least 2 high round picks on O-Lineman and an additional OT later in the draft as well as addressing the O-Line in free agency. I realize we need at least 2 OG's and a RT immediately and eventually we need to address LT as well, but I can live with Beachum for one more year. The OG's and replacing Parnell are the biggest problem areas right now. This is an extremely deep draft at OG/C. As I said before, Elflein, Feeney and Pocic are elite talents and there are a handful of other players who are very good pro prospects as well. Interior linemen normally don't get drafted very highly. I believe we could get very good starting caliber players in the 2 and 3rd rounds.

 

Ideally, I would prefer to trade down in round 1 though and address those areas in the late 1st/early 2nd where we could get the elite talent possibly a combination of Elflein and Feeney if we were truly lucky. Then we would address RB later in the draft with a runner like Royce Freeman or Kareem Hunt, but if we stick in the top 4, we must take the best available player and Fournette is the best player in the draft, in my opinion. Fixing the offense has to be a priority and that means halting this team from being one dimensional. We've had no running attack to speak of since MJD left and it has gotten progressively worse every year.

---

Yeah I would too but I won't pass on a better talent to reach for a pass rusher. I've gone on record here saying I prefer Garrett or Allen but if they are off the board I wouldn't pass on Fournette because he's a RB.

 

Personally, I'd still take Tim Williams and Carl Lawson before I'd look Fournette's way.

---

That is why I want to spend at least 2 high round picks on O-Lineman and an additional OT later in the draft as well as addressing the O-Line in free agency. I realize we need at least 2 OG's and a RT immediately and eventually we need to address LT as well, but I can live with Beachum for one more year. The OG's and replacing Parnell are the biggest problem areas right now. This is an extremely deep draft at OG/C. As I said before, Elflein, Feeney and Pocic are elite talents and there are a handful of other players who are very good pro prospects as well. Interior linemen normally don't get drafted very highly. I believe we could get very good starting caliber players in the 2 and 3rd rounds.

 

Ideally, I would prefer to trade down in round 1 though and address those areas in the late 1st/early 2nd where we could get the elite talent possibly a combination of Elflein and Feeney if we were truly lucky. Then we would address RB later in the draft with a runner like Royce Freeman or Kareem Hunt, but if we stick in the top 4, we must take the best available player and Fournette is the best player in the draft, in my opinion. Fixing the offense has to be a priority and that means halting this team from being one dimensional. We've had no running attack to speak of since MJD left and it has gotten progressively worse every year.

 

With the sheer amount of teams that have OL issues besides us, I see those three you mentioned getting picked way before our turn comes up in the 2nd, so we'd be looking at the next tier of interior guys by then(Price/Crowder/Johnson/Cole/Orlosky). I'm all for getting new OL next year, just not Fournette.

---

With the sheer amount of teams that have OL issues besides us, I see those three you mentioned getting picked way before our turn comes up in the 2nd, so we'd be looking at the next tier of interior guys by then(Price/Crowder/Johnson/Cole/Orlosky). I'm all for getting new OL next year, just not Fournette.

 

 

Most teams with O-Line issues are gonna reach for OT's. Teams like the Vikings are so desperate for a LT, that they'd reach for one of those rather than to take a sure-fire OG. You rarely see more than 1 or 2 interior linemen going in round 1, that's why I believe there will be some quality guys there in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Like I said though, ideally a trade down to add more picks and making sure we grab elite OG/C's is the perfect scenario though. I just don't believe in reaching for talent and if we do stay in the top 3-5 picks and Fournette is on the board, I don't think you can pass on him. I guess it's all where you have players slotted and I have Fournette as the best player in the draft. 

---

now that I think about it, if the Jags would draft Fournette, he would only avg 3 yards per carry, #becausejaguars. Pass on him and draft a kicker or punter.

---

Most teams with O-Line issues are gonna reach for OT's. Teams like the Vikings are so desperate for a LT, that they'd reach for one of those rather than to take a sure-fire OG. You rarely see more than 1 or 2 interior linemen going in round 1, that's why I believe there will be some quality guys there in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Like I said though, ideally a trade down to add more picks and making sure we grab elite OG/C's is the perfect scenario though. I just don't believe in reaching for talent and if we do stay in the top 3-5 picks and Fournette is on the board, I don't think you can pass on him. I guess it's all where you have players slotted and I have Fournette as the best player in the draft.

Meh, this is a bad year for OTs in the draft. Robinson and the Wisconsin kid look like the only tackles worth burning a 1st on. I wouldn't be surprised if 4 or 5 interior OL very picked before our second pick comes up.

---

After seein fournette against Alabama. He sucks. The great ones rise to the occasion

---