If Cyprien and Joeckel aren't one of our best players this year, then year 4 will come with change. Those two were supposed to be building blocks.


At this point, I think we are just trying to salvage them and hope they become decent starters on a successful team, as opposed to the leaders of an emerging young team they were supposed to be.


To me, Caldwell has done an excellent job, but his very first 3 picks leave a lot to be desired. Let's hope they make a miraculous transformation.

I again, agree completely. I also believe it's just more signs of how weak that year's draft class truly was. Just off the top of my head, without looking at that year's draft list, how many of those 1st round picks have lived up to the billing of being a 1st round pick. Richardson, Kyle Long, Ansah? Star, Hopkins, maybe Fluker?

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Harris drafted MJD too. And Daryl Smiff

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Evans is very close in efficacy as Cyprien.

They are both below average players. I can live with that from Evans, who was a 6th rounder. I can't with Cyp.

I can make a lot of excuses for cyp for last season.


This season, barring injury, there won't be any excuses.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Let's be real for a second. Both sucked. Let's not get up in arms about the tallest midget

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