Not a bad point.

 

It's a fair point, but it happens all the time. Leftwich got praised for being "carried" by his teammates with a broken leg. Philip Rivers tore his ACL and kept playing in a playoff game. Pac got the USADA approval for the treatment. He thought he can get by after getting shots before the fight. When it was denied, the odds of him winning went down dramatically.

 

Still, no one is complaining that Pac lost the fight. The beef by most is how boring it was. Maybe the shoulder simply didn't hold up, but Pac through round 6 made concerted effort to get close. In the earlier rounds, all Floyd did whenever that happened was to clinch or to run away. Even after that, Floyd was doing his usual schtick (even though anyone who watched it could see that he clearly had the upper hand). Then in the last 30 seconds of round 12, he starts dancing around the ring like he then wanted to fight.

 

If he gave the fans that for at least the first 8 rounds, it probably wouldn't be a boring fight. He probably even hurts Pac a lot more, further making his win more impressive. Sure, he may have gotten tagged a few more times if he went at Pac like that, but I think he was the bigger guy, longer reach, better "boxer", and just as fast (and apparently going against someone who was injured). He would have prevailed regardless. It just would have made it a far better show.

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It's a fair point, but it happens all the time. Leftwich got praised for being "carried" by his teammates with a broken leg. Philip Rivers tore his ACL and kept playing in a playoff game. Pac got the USADA approval for the treatment. He thought he can get by after getting shots before the fight. When it was denied, the odds of him winning went down dramatically.

 

Still, no one is complaining that Pac lost the fight. The beef by most is how boring it was. Maybe the shoulder simply didn't hold up, but Pac through round 6 made concerted effort to get close. In the earlier rounds, all Floyd did whenever that happened was to clinch or to run away. Even after that, Floyd was doing his usual schtick (even though anyone who watched it could see that he clearly had the upper hand). Then in the last 30 seconds of round 12, he starts dancing around the ring like he then wanted to fight.

 

If he gave the fans that for at least the first 8 rounds, it probably wouldn't be a boring fight. He probably even hurts Pac a lot more, further making his win more impressive. Sure, he may have gotten tagged a few more times if he went at Pac like that, but I think he was the bigger guy, longer reach, better "boxer", and just as fast (and apparently going against someone who was injured). He would have prevailed regardless. It just would have made it a far better show.

Reading this made me chuckle a bit. You always hear how great a defensive boxer Mayweather is. Since when, and what other sport is hugging and clinching your opponent considered good defense. At least in wrestling or MMA you get in the clinch and you can get tossed, but in boxing it is "defense". Good stuff.

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There have always been fighters like Mayweather and there always will be.  The bottom line is you fight to win.  If that’s what he thinks it takes to win, that’s what he’s going to do.  If you didn’t know he was going to fight like this, you probably don’t follow boxing at all.

 

Do I like it?  Is it entertaining to most people?  Hell no, that’s why I don’t/didn’t watch it.  That’s why I never bother with the PPV trap.  But some fighters are just going to do it.  That's just the way it is.

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He fought knowingly on a bum shoulder and lied about it until after the fight. For all the people giving Floyd flack for "not giving the fans what they wanted to see" where's the flack for Pacman who equally contributed to a lackluster fight? He knew he wasn't anywhere near 100% yet took the fight and the payday anyway. But that's ok I guess.

no it's not and its worth mentioning for sure... if i want to complain about how crappy the fight was to watch, then yes, this would be a valid argument..along with the fact one guy waited till the other was well out of his prime to put on the "superfight" and still acted like he shifted the planet when he won... whats sad is people dont engage in any sort of debate on this topic... people either cant stand what they saw, or they act like they saw something totally different because they know boxing better and appreciate the "technique" of a guy who has "mastered his craft"... which is the way most arguments on this board go- one person says their opinion, other people explain to them how they are obviously blind and uneducated on the subject...

 

i get where the people are coming from, it's just annoying to see people act like they are some sort of boxing elite crowd that saw something different from everyone else...i understand it takes tremendous skill to do some of the things that Floyd accomplished and a technique that has to be flawlessly executed to achieve his level of success...but welcome to sports, flawless execution happens all the time in every sport... when home boy is banking 150mill off a fight, he better have some good damn technique.. if he wants to compare himself to the greats, there needs to be unquestionable surety that thats where he belongs.... and thats the thing, there are so many question marks in most peoples mind about his fighting, even boxing fans cant agree on him, never mind the out of the ring issues that make him possibly one of the worst people on this planet.... i guess what im saying is-  don't demonize other people for saying their opinion about him and put yourself on a high horse like their opinion is invalid when there is a pretty widespread argument about the subject.

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