Year 3, it's on the General Manager to give us a competitive roster this year. I'm not expecting an all pro-roster and even getting into the playoffs but I expect a roster that should be able to at least sniff .500

 

The youth excuse is now out the window

 

The rebuilding excuse is now out the window

 

This is the year David's plan needs to come into focus or it's time to make changes. That means if we really go into next season with the same group of linemen and they don't develop it's on David as much as Gus. If we still don't get the production needed out of the offense that's on David as much as Gus. 

 

Honestly we need to draft heavy in the Offensive line and Secondary but that's just my opinion. Whatever David does is fine but I think most of us can fairly say in year 3 we've been patient and if it's still a 5-6 win team we should change leadership. 

 

I've got no desire to watch this team struggle for 5 wins next year on the promise year 4 is the year. That screams Gene Smith all over again, fool me once.........

 

I'm hopeful but not optimistic, we're pretty much betting on the perfect off season to field a competitive team. 

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Year 3, it's on the General Manager to give us a competitive roster this year. I'm not expecting an all pro-roster and even getting into the playoffs but I expect a roster that should be able to at least sniff .500

 

The youth excuse is now out the window

 

The rebuilding excuse is now out the window

 

This is the year David's plan needs to come into focus or it's time to make changes. That means if we really go into next season with the same group of linemen and they don't develop it's on David as much as Gus. If we still don't get the production needed out of the offense that's on David as much as Gus. 

 

Honestly we need to draft heavy in the Offensive line and Secondary but that's just my opinion. Whatever David does is fine but I think most of us can fairly say in year 3 we've been patient and if it's still a 5-6 win team we should change leadership. 

 

I've got no desire to watch this team struggle for 5 wins next year on the promise year 4 is the year. That screams Gene Smith all over again, fool me once.........

 

I'm hopeful but not optimistic, we're pretty much betting on the perfect off season to field a competitive team. 

We just drafted heavily in the oline the past two drafts. I think it is highly unlikely they draft heavy there again. They will be setting up the line to be in the same position that it was in this season being way too young. We will never get anywhere if we keep our oline in constant major development.

 

What help they bring to the oline will most likely come from free agency. They will bring in some vets who will either lead or push the line to get better.

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I don't know if Khan sees this as a "prove-it" year or not, but Caldwell will need to hit on at least two impact-making free agents in order to help the team take a step forward.  He seems to have a green light from Khan to go big in the FA market this offseason and it will be interesting to see what he comes away with. 

 

Would be good to see a couple of his 2013 picks step it up in their third year.  Joeckel especially.   I feel confident the 2014 draft will yield multiple long term starters. 

 

It all rises and falls with Bortles in the end -  as his progress will have the greatest influence on the W/L column. 

 

I think O-line help/competition will come from free agency, not necessarily the draft -  and I'd take a good free safety any-damn-where he can find one. 

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We just drafted heavily in the oline the past two drafts. I think it is highly unlikely they draft heavy there again. They will be setting up the line to be in the same position that it was in this season being way too young. We will never get anywhere if we keep our oline in constant major development.

 

What help they bring to the oline will most likely come from free agency. They will bring in some vets who will either lead or push the line to get better.

 

Outside of Alex Mack who was available as a Free Agent upgrade? Good Olineman don't usually come available on the market, you have to draft them. The Cowboys have what 4 1st rounders on their line? We'd be crazy to try and not draft someone to upgrade or push Joeckel, Beadles, and Pasturz. 

 

But that's not my point, it's on David this year to assemble the best possible 5 starting offensive linemen come week 1. 

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I'm not sure about this being a prove it year for Caldwell.  I think he's doing a decent job.  I think Bradley & Co. are on the hot seat starting right now.

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I don't know if Khan sees this as a "prove-it" year or not, but Caldwell will need to hit on at least two impact-making free agents in order to help the team take a step forward.  He seems to have a green light from Khan to go big in the FA market this offseason and it will be interesting to see what he comes away with. 

 

Would be good to see a couple of his 2013 picks step it up in their third year.  Joeckel especially.   I feel confident the 2014 draft will yield multiple long term starters. 

 

It all rises and falls with Bortles in the end -  as his progress will have the greatest influence on the W/L column. 

 

I sure hope Khans not on board with another 5 win or less season, but you might be right who knows at this point, hopefully we don't have to find out. 

 

I agree a lot depends on Bortles as with any GM the QB is your prize pick. It ruined Gene Smith and rightfully so. You miss at QB (especially in the top of the 1st) it's time to update the resume. 

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I'm not sure about this being a prove it year for Caldwell.  I think he's doing a decent job.  I think Bradley & Co. are on the hot seat starting right now.

 

Bradly & Co. are Caldwell's hires. That's my point if we're going to hold Bradly accountable why are we not holding Caldwell accountable?  He's essentially 1-1 on the draft classes right now. 2013 sucks, hopefully they turn it around but when the entire class has a sophomore slump it's possible they just ain't that good to start with.

 

Coming into this season we where all convinced Cyprien was the next Darius and Gratz the next Mathis how'd that work out? I'm not ready to anoint the 2014 class just yet, T\there's tons of potential but that's gotten us no where in the past.  

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We shouldn't fire Caldwell for Bradley and Co., it should be based upon the people he has brought in.  Right now he deserves an extension.  Now when Bradley is fired, and he brings another coach in, and if he sucks, then Caldwell and the new coach need to take a hike.  Caldwell is safe for a while IMO.

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Gipson FS

 

Restricted free agent.

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We shouldn't fire Caldwell for Bradley and Co., it should be based upon the people he has brought in.  Right now he deserves an extension.  Now when Bradley is fired, and he brings another coach in, and if he sucks, then Caldwell and the new coach need to take a hike.  Caldwell is safe for a while IMO.

 

If year 3 isn't a competitive roster you're not firing him for Bradly. You're firing him because he hasn't fielded a competitive roster in 3 years. I don't care who our coach was this year, this roster wasn't a .500 roster no one deny's that. We could have the greatest coaches of all time the talent just wasn't there. Now the idea is it'll develop this offseason, or we will find the missing pieces, but if next year the talent still isn't there it's on David. 

 

Does anyone think the talent was there this year to be a .500 team? I'm under the impression we all agree the team was just out matched top to bottom most games (be it because their young, or not ready, they suck, whatever reason).

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I sure hope Khans not on board with another 5 win or less season

I don't think anyone, including the owner, is on board with that. 

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Stop kneejerking, this team is full of 2nd and 3rd year players, nobody can expect 2nd and 3rd year players to actually be good. We need at least 5 more years to judge a draft class and if you disagree, you don't know football. 

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I don't know...  I think Caldwell already proved he's the man...  

 

Here are the teams we held to 23 points or less:

 

Steelers (L)

tacks (L)

Browns (W)

clots (L) - second game

Ravens (L)

tacks (W)

tinhorns (L) - second game

 

If somehow we had been able to keep the momentum from last year, or developed some sort of offense where we could score 24 points per game, we'd be darn close to a .500 team right now...

 

I think Caldwell has proven he can acquire talent.  I think what we're missing is an offense that is capable of scoring points.

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I don't know...  I think Caldwell already proved he's the man...  

 

If you can get a 6th round pick for Blaine Gabbert, you are the man!

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The youth excuse is not out the window

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The youth excuse is not out the window

You got that right.

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The youth excuse is not out the window

 

So it's acceptable in year 3 to say this team isn't competitive because they're to young still? To me that's not an acceptable argument next year, if we're to young that's Davids fault for not finding the right balance in three years between youth and experience. 

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Outside of Alex Mack who was available as a Free Agent upgrade? Good Olineman don't usually come available on the market, you have to draft them. The Cowboys have what 4 1st rounders on their line? We'd be crazy to try and not draft someone to upgrade or push Joeckel, Beadles, and Pasturz. 

 

But that's not my point, it's on David this year to assemble the best possible 5 starting offensive linemen come week 1. 

No what would be crazy is to try to push rookies with more rookies.

 

The cowboys have 3 first rounders picked over 4 drafts with only 1 picked in the top 10. The cowboys have used only 4 picks on the oline in 5 years. They let their guys develop and didn't panic and waste draft picks by redrafting the same position every other year.

 

The jags have too many holes to worry about replacing last years number 2 overall pick in next years draft.

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No what would be crazy is to try to push rookies with more rookies.

 

The cowboys have 3 first rounders picked over 4 drafts with only 1 picked in the top 10. The cowboys have used only 4 picks on the oline in 5 years. They let their guys develop and didn't panic and waste draft picks by redrafting the same position every other year.

 

The jags have too many holes to worry about replacing last years number 2 overall pick in next years draft.

 

The difference is the guys the Cowboys drafted played well from day 1. (Shocking, I know, but sometimes players actually don't suck for their first two years). 

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