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Breakdown of OL/Chad Henne via BCC

#21

I mean to  a certain degree how much of that falls on Fisch?

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#22

Fisch takes a good chunk


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#23

But the Henne apologist were saying "Henne can't make the line block better."


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#24

Quote:I know. That would seem to be the simplest way to make them back off the blitz.
The way the o - line blocked, it seemed like a screen was called every play
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#25

Some of the play-actions where awful. Sometimes the QB would go to hand it off when the RB wasn't even running to that side, sometimes they would be 5 yards apart from each other. You can't make a defense bite if you don't sell the play-actipn properly.

 

Look at this for example:

[Image: hennesack3.gif]

 

Gerhart and Henne don't even come close to other.


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#26
(This post was last modified: 09-15-2014, 02:01 PM by JaguarsAreBeasting.)

Quote:Some of the play-actions where awful. Sometimes the QB would go to hand it off when the RB wasn't even running to that side, sometimes they would be 5 yards apart from each other. You can't make a defense bite if you don't sell the play-actipn properly.

 

Look at this for example:

[Image: hennesack3.gif]

 

Gerhart and Henne don't even come close to other.
That's comical how Kerrigan got a easy sack.  Who designed that play. Oh yeah, Fisch. Henne is suppose to be Michael Vick and put a move on Kerrigan, make him miss, then make a play.


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#27

and theres another sack that Henne ran right into

 

but but but the OL!!!!!!!!!!


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#28

Quote:and theres another sack that Henne ran right into

 

but but but the OL!!!!!!!!!!
Peyton Manning would have audibled out of that play.

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#29

Like I said in the other thread you have to know what you are looking at. It's very simple to think 10 sacks is bad oline but he should have a clock in his head to throw the ball.


That clock was 10 minutes slow yesterday
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#30

Quote:Some of the play-actions where awful. Sometimes the QB would go to hand it off when the RB wasn't even running to that side, sometimes they would be 5 yards apart from each other. You can't make a defense bite if you don't sell the play-actipn properly.

 

Look at this for example:

[Image: hennesack3.gif]

 

Gerhart and Henne don't even come close to other
You are right.  Henne doesn't even sell the run play that's why Kerrigan wasn't fooled. 

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#31

Quote:Jeff Lageman pinned 6 of the 10 sacks on Chad.
We'll see what his video analysis tells us after the fact. 

 

PFF pinned 2 of 10 on Henne, so there's some disagreement. 

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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#32

Quote:Like I said in the other thread you have to know what you are looking at. It's very simple to think 10 sacks is bad oline but he should have a clock in his head to throw the ball.


That clock was 10 minutes slow yesterday
When should that alarm go off?  At 2 or 3 seconds, then throw it no matter what?

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#33

Ten sacks and no throwaways
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#34

We really overuse the stretch play action.  It's so easy to stop because the DE goes unblocked and can just go straight for the QB.


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#35

Quote:That's comical how Kerrigan got a easy sack.  Who designed that play. Oh yeah, Fisch. Henne is suppose to be Michael Vick and put a move on Kerrigan, make him miss, then make a play.
 

lol Henne screwed that up by stopping.  He had an angle to extend outside if he kept running.  That sack was on Henne and Henne alone.

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#36

Quote:When should that alarm go off? At 2 or 3 seconds, then throw it no matter what?


I know the rule of thumb is 3 seconds. He can throw it away checkdown even run but don't hold the ball and curl up. When I watch other qbs I see them play with timer in their head and Henne does not.


I felt he had taken a step forward and feel very foolish in trusting his skill. He looks nothing like the preseason looking off guys and firing down the feild. On a gif here he has to avoid Kerrigan and just can't because the skill to isn't there. I was thinking he would play somewhat competent. But I was wrong.
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#37

Quote:Some of the play-actions where awful. Sometimes the QB would go to hand it off when the RB wasn't even running to that side, sometimes they would be 5 yards apart from each other. You can't make a defense bite if you don't sell the play-actipn properly.

 

Look at this for example:

[Image: hennesack3.gif]

 

Gerhart and Henne don't even come close to other.
Also Henne waited to long, the Jag player running down the 45 yard line is open, he would have had to throw a Stafford side arm though.

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#38

Quote:Also Henne waited to long, the Jag player running down the 45 yard line is open, he would have had to throw a Stafford side arm though.
Too bad he is Hennedicapped.


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#39

Only four of those are Henne's fault IMO.  On the others there was no pocket, precious little time to even throw it out of bounds, or a completely unblocked rusher.  If you are blaming Henne for taking a sack from a completely unblocked rusher, you probably should have your head examined. That's just silly.  Especially when your OC has mandated that Henne "chuck it deep" more this time around.  You gotta' hold the ball longer to pull that off - especially with a bunch of rookies at WR.  There's lots of blame to share here and Henne get's plenty, but the line gets more. 

 

Henne's average at best and usually closer to awful, but the o-line out stunk him by a mile yesterday. 


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#40

But it is Henne's fault.  He should have put the ball in the backs belly and take it out. The design of the play was to have the defense flow the the left, to vacate the right part of the field. O-line and RB, defense went left, the receivers went right.  Henne should have saw the receiver running down the 45 yard line about to open up and side armed it to him.


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