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Mexico Complains That Texas Is Sending National Guard Troops to the Border

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Mexico Complains That Texas Is Sending National Guard Troops to the Border
 

The Mexican government has “expressed their concern” over Texas Governor Rick Perry’s decision to send 1,000 National Guard troops to the border to help deal with the influx of illegal immigrant minors entering the US.

“Attention to the immigration phenomenon must be paid from a long-term regional perspective and based on the principles of good neighborliness and shared responsibility,” the Foreign Relations Secretariat said in a statement released last week.

 

http://defund.com/mexico-complains-that-...m=facebook


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(This post was last modified: 08-03-2014, 12:16 PM by Kotite.)

Rick Perry is an expert on three things.. women's rights, border security and.. uh. and..
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If the Washington political solution to everything is to throw more money at the problem then the Texas political solution is to throw more guns at the problem.


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(This post was last modified: 08-03-2014, 12:51 PM by The Mad Dog.)

Tough [BAD WORD REMOVED] on the Mexicans. Its our border and we'll do as we please. I don't blame any country for how they choosing a hard line for border patrol. 


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I don't know why Mexico would be complaining, they can't go to border armed, they're not allowed to detain anyone, and are basically just really expensive observers. 

 

Both sides are now guilty of just politicizing a very real problem on the border.


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Mexico is complaining because if we do slow the influx of illegals crossing the border, it cuts into their ability to profit from ferrying illegals from central and South America to the US border. They don't want to be stuck with all of these illegals either.
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Quote:I don't know why Mexico would be complaining, they can't go to border armed, they're not allowed to detain anyone, and are basically just really expensive observers. 

 

Both sides are now guilty of just politicizing a very real problem on the border.
 

You're wrong......

 

From the article: “by deploying the [National Guard] himself rather than through Washington, [Perry] has the power to order the troops to make arrests and apprehensions, something Guard troops in past border deployments have been prohibited from doing.”

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Quote:You're wrong......

 

From the article: “by deploying the [National Guard] himself rather than through Washington, [Perry] has the power to order the troops to make arrests and apprehensions, something Guard troops in past border deployments have been prohibited from doing.”
 

well that's new I hadn't heard that before.

 

I wonder how the authority of the National Guard is changed based upon who is calling them up?

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Shared responsibilities?  Good neighborliness?

 

I don't see Mexico patrolling their borders.  Their southern border would be pretty easy to lock down.


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Quote:Shared responsibilities?  Good neighborliness?

 

I don't see Mexico patrolling their borders.  Their southern border would be pretty easy to lock down.


They're making money transporting these illegals. The cartels run the show in Mexico. They're profiting from these caravans and trains bringing tens of thousands to our border, so they've got little motivation to stop the flow unless we lock down our border and the potential exists that those illegals wind up getting stuck in Mexico.
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Americans should be the ones complaining because it is a waste of our money and resources. These people in many cases are giving themselves up willingly to the existing border patrol. This is Perry trying to look tough on immigration in complete contrast to what he said in the primaries just a couple years ago on the subject. W was governor of TX for 8 years prior to his two terms as president. It's not like this a new issue that has not had the potential to be addressed.
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(This post was last modified: 08-03-2014, 01:32 PM by FreeAgent01.)

The National Guard was mostly useless under Bush's national deployment.  It slowed things at first because immigrants were fearful of crossing when they heard the border had soldiers on it.  After a few months they realized that the National Guard had been neutered.  National Guardsmen were deployed to man surveillance equipment... And then the Border Patrol Agent who would have normally manned it, had to protect and stand guard over the National Guardsman because he wasn't armed.  National Guardsmen began to get complacent and slept after a short time when they realized that they weren't really helping much.  

 

The problem then wasn't that the illegals were going undetected.  It was that there weren't enough Border Patrol Agents to arrest all of them.  Daily Bonsai Runs of 200 illegals in an area where 2 or 3 Border Patrol Agents patrolled.  Yeah, the agents saw them, but there was nothing they could do besides arrest the people who fell off the fence and got hurt... and grandma going by in her walker. 

 

Hopefully a Texas state deployment will go better.


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Quote:They're making money transporting these illegals. The cartels run the show in Mexico. They're profiting from these caravans and trains bringing tens of thousands to our border, so they've got little motivation to stop the flow unless we lock down our border and the potential exists that those illegals wind up getting stuck in Mexico.
 

The Mexican Drug Cartels are the number 3 producer towards Mexico's GDP.

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Quote:The Mexican Drug Cartels are the number 3 producer towards Mexico's GDP.


And they're making a nice chunk of change from each illegal they smuggle from their southern border to ours. It's a cash cow that we could squeeze shut with tighter border security.
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Quote:And they're making a nice chunk of change from each illegal they smuggle from their southern border to ours. It's a cash cow that we could squeeze shut with tighter border security.
 

Generally, Mexicans pay $5000 - $7000 to get smuggled by the DTOs.  Exotics like Chinese, Romanians, and Indians pay $50,000 each to the DTOs.  They make a grip.

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Quote:Generally, Mexicans pay $5000 - $7000 to get smuggled by the DTOs.  Exotics like Chinese, Romanians, and Indians pay $50,000 each to the DTOs.  They make a grip.


Which is why Mexico isn't locking down their southern border to those looking for passage to the USA regardless of nationality. As long as they aren't looking to put down roots in Mexico they're happy to take the money. If they were just trying to illegally enter and remain in Mexico, they'd find out pretty quickly that their methods for dealing with illegals are a but more harsh than ours.
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Quote:Rick Perry is an expert on three things.. women's rights, border security and.. uh. and..
 

And government economics.

 

http://thetexaseconomy.org/economic-outlook/

 

But why in the Hell would we want anything like that in the rest of this country? Better to let the Progs and Professional Voters have it.

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(This post was last modified: 08-03-2014, 04:14 PM by Kotite.)

Houston and Dallas are two of the top markets for IT in the US. Jax is number 9, but I personally don't feel local government is doing enough to attract other companies to move their HQ here. Austin is also a growing IT market. If America starts going green (and plenty are fighting it) big energy is going to see a decline.
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Quote:And government economics.

 

http://thetexaseconomy.org/economic-outlook/

 

But why in the Hell would we want anything like that in the rest of this country? Better to let the Progs and Professional Voters have it.
If you haven't figured it out yet, the only good jobs to our proggy friends are government jobs. 

 

Heck, some of the wealthiest counties in the country are in northern Virginia where many DC based federal employees call home. 

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It is hard to look at one state's economic model and assume it will apply on a national level. Texas has a huge energy and IT market. How would that same plan apply to other states? Clinton came from Arkansas which is perrenially one of the poorest states and he had the best economic tenure of any president in the past 50 years (not that he was entirely responsible for it). Sound principles should be able to be universally applied, but seeing ways to take advantage of the economy of a state is far easier than trying to identify and exploit these opportunities across a nation.
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