Should we trade back into the 1st and grab him? Personally I think a Bridgewater-Barr draft would be awesome. 

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Depends on the price

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No.

Let's stop giving away picks.

And there's something about Barr that makes me skeptical of his ability at the next level but I can't put my finger on it...

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Barr is raw, too raw to draft

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I would do it, but only if they'll take next years first round pick. I don't want to lose any depth from this draft.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

I think Barr has top five potential but third round technique. Very cautious of him.

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That would probably cost us at least our 3rd round draft pick and then some.

 

I dont want to walk away from arguably the deepest draft in a long time and end up with just Teddy and Barr from our first three picks.

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That would probably cost us at least our 3rd round draft pick and then some.


I dont want to walk away from arguably the deepest draft in a long time and end up with just Teddy and Barr from our first three picks.

agreed

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Should we trade back into the 1st and grab him? Personally I think a Bridgewater-Barr draft would be awesome. 

 

If he falls into the 20's, then I think he'll get picked in the 20's without us trading up to get him.

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I would do it, but only if they'll take next years first round pick. I don't want to lose any depth from this draft.

 

You would want to give up next year's 1st round pick to trade up +-12 picks from our 2nd round pick?

 

I'm reminded of a Forest Gump quote about stupidity.

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Any ideas about giving up next years first for a guy that falls to the 20s is pretty ridiculous. Our 1st next year could very well be in the top ten again. Standing pat at 39 (or maybe trading up a couple spots if someone falls to the 35,36,37,38 area) would seem to be a smarter idea. Dee Ford could wind up sitting there and to me if you can get Teddy and Dee Ford back to back , then the rest of the draft should be a cake walk. 

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You would want to give up next year's 1st round pick to trade up +-12 picks from our 2nd round pick?


I'm reminded of a Forest Gump quote about stupidity.

Thanks for the insult but I didn't intend to trade up. Trade the 2014 20 something pick for the 2015 first round pick. That way, we get next year's first round pick one year early.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

I would rather take Attaochu in the 2nd or 3rd.

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Thanks for the insult but I didn't intend to trade up. Trade the 2014 20 something pick for the 2015 first round pick. That way, we get next year's first round pick one year early.

 

 

I don't think we'll be making a playoff run next year.  No reason to get a player a 'year early' unless you are ready for a playoff/super bowl run.  Having him for a .500 year is pretty pointless.  This isn't quite "Gene Smith" level of thinking, because it's a 1st for a 1st, and not a 2nd for a 3rd.  But it's still not a very sound strategy.  

 

We're not two or three players away from being a playoff team.  If we get our QB at 3, then we'll be closer.  And if we get a pass rusher, we'll be closer.  But we've still got a long ways to go.  

 

Don't trade the future for the now unless now is ready for a super bowl run, and the window is closing.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Thanks for the insult but I didn't intend to trade up. Trade the 2014 20 something pick for the 2015 first round pick. That way, we get next year's first round pick one year early.

 

I'm still reminded of that quote.  You want to spend next years first round pick on a guy if he falls out of the top 20 of this years first round.  I think it's asinine.  Next years first round pick could very well be in the top 15 again.  I don't think it's good business to trade away the future when it's imperative to get the picks right for the continued rebuild.  Washington is running into this exact problem and I would sincerely hope that our front office doesn't want to follow in the footsteps of Chainsaw Dan Snyder.

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Should we trade back into the 1st and grab him? Personally I think a Bridgewater-Barr draft would be awesome.

If we were to trade up for any faller-- I would rather dee ford than Barr, still not in favor of it though

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I'm still reminded of that quote.  You want to spend next years first round pick on a guy if he falls out of the top 20 of this years first round.  I think it's asinine.  Next years first round pick could very well be in the top 15 again.  I don't think it's good business to trade away the future when it's imperative to get the picks right for the continued rebuild.  Washington is running into this exact problem and I would sincerely hope that our front office doesn't want to follow in the footsteps of Chainsaw Dan Snyder.

 

And that's something Gene Smith would do.

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I always thought the pundits labelled Barr as a 3-4 pass rushing type linebacker. Not that I have seen him other than once, but I just thought he wasn't going to be a fit for this team. To be fair, I'm still unsure about what the LEO position is all about. 

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Absolutely not. 1) I will almost never trade a draft pick above a 5th rounder to move up. I like my draft picks. 2) I'm not sold on Barr at all.

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Doesn't seem like a good idea to trade a top 10-15 2015 pick for a guy that falls to the mid 20's in this draft. 

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