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First Take with a wow stat

#1

I hate First Take with a passion, but I will give them credit for finding this incredible stat (or stealing and not giving proper credit).

 

No WR taken in the top 5 has ever won a Super Bowl with the team that originally took them. 

 

We already have Blackmon under the scope of that stat, do we really want to test such powerful history twice by taking Watkins as a lot of people on here would like?


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#2

Nice stat but it's aided by the fact that not many receivers have ever gone in the top 5. Especially before the last 10 years.


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#3

Yes, let's model our entire team based on superstitious coincidences of what have and have not won Super Bowls. We should do research to see what color jersey has most often won the super bowl, what height and name of the QB is most common among super bowl winners, we should only draft white QBs, and we should get rid of Khan because no middle eastern tycoon has ever won a super bowl before.


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#4

Blackmon was the 5th pick. He was only the second receiver in the Super Bowl era to be picked 5th. The other is Jerry Butler, picked 5th by the Bills in 1979.


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Quote:Nice stat but it's aided by the fact that not many receivers have ever gone in the top 5. Especially before the last 10 years.
17 total. I am the preacher of not overrated or eschewing SSS here, but I actually think this is past that. That's a whole lot of history.

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(This post was last modified: 02-28-2014, 01:10 PM by KYjaggy.)

Quote:Blackmon was the 5th pick. He was only the second receiver in the Super Bowl era to be picked 5th. The other is Jerry Butler, picked 5th by the Bills in 1979.
Lol, not just the 5th slot...top 5 overall. That includes: 

 

 

2011 4 A.J. Green Cincinnati Bengals Georgia

2007 2 Calvin Johnson Detroit Lions Georgia Tech

2005 3 Braylon Edwards Cleveland Browns Michigan

2004 3 Larry Fitzgerald Arizona Cardinals Pittsburgh

2003 2 Charles Rogers Detroit Lions Michigan State

2003 3 Andre Johnson Houston Texans Miami (Fla.)

2000 4 Peter Warrick Cincinnati Bengals Florida State

1996 1 Keyshawn Johnson New York Jets USC

1995 4 Michael Westbrook Washington Redskins Colorado

1992 4 Desmond Howard Washington Redskins Michigan

1984 1 Irving Fryar New England Patriots Nebraska

1984 4 Kenny Jackson Philadelphia Eagles Penn State

1980 2 Lam Jones New York Jets Texas

1979 5 Jerry Butler Buffalo Bills Clemson

1978 3 Wes Chandler New Orleans Saints Florida

1972 4 Ahmad Rashad St. Louis Cardinals Oregon

1971 4 J.D. Hill Buffalo Bills Arizona State


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#7

That's a pretty small sample size.  


There have I believe only been 20 WR's drafted in the Top 5 since 1964.  


I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#8

The same  general theory can be applied to QB's taken in the top 5. The vast minority of those don't even get to a SB let alone win it with the original team that drafted them


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#9

Drafting AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, or Andre Johnson would have been devastating. 


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Quote:Lol, not just the 5th slot...top 5 overall. That includes: 

 

 

2011 4 A.J. Green Cincinnati Bengals Georgia

2007 2 Calvin Johnson Detroit Lions Georgia Tech

2005 3 Braylon Edwards Cleveland Browns Michigan

2004 3 Larry Fitzgerald Arizona Cardinals Pittsburgh

2003 2 Charles Rogers Detroit Lions Michigan State

2003 3 Andre Johnson Houston Texans Miami (Fla.)

2000 4 Peter Warrick Cincinnati Bengals Florida State

1996 1 Keyshawn Johnson New York Jets USC

1995 4 Michael Westbrook Washington Redskins Colorado

1992 4 Desmond Howard Washington Redskins Michigan

1984 1 Irving Fryar New England Patriots Nebraska

1984 4 Kenny Jackson Philadelphia Eagles Penn State

1980 2 Lam Jones New York Jets Texas

1979 5 Jerry Butler Buffalo Bills Clemson

1978 3 Wes Chandler New Orleans Saints Florida

1972 4 Ahmad Rashad St. Louis Cardinals Oregon

1971 4 J.D. Hill Buffalo Bills Arizona State
 

I know what "top 5" means. I was using it as an example of how few receivers are taken. You can see by the list above, it is a small list. 

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Quote:Drafting AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, or Andre Johnson would have been devastating. 
 

Set those franchises back.

 

What's funny is Kurt Warner throwing a goal line interception to James Harrison is the only reason the stat still exists.

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Quote:The same  general theory can be applied to QB's taken in the top 5. The vast minority of those don't even get to a SB let alone win it with the original team that drafted them
That's actually very not true. Almost 40% of the Super Bowls have been won by top 5 pick QBs.

 

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#13

Here's a stat: The Jaguars are one of the few teams to have never had the 1st pick in the draft.  It may be several years before we have that pick.  Unless we trade for it.


I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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(This post was last modified: 02-28-2014, 01:47 PM by Jaguars28fan.)

Not a surprising stat. Elite WRs are more of a luxury and teams picking that high probably have bigger needs than to afford a luxury pick .


WRs can be eliminated by so many factors ...double teams , weather , bad qb , bad line.


The only elite Wrs to be part of a super bowl team recently was probably Harrison or Wayne ... But they had a pretty good QB
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#15

Wasn't Michael Irvin a top 5 pick?


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#16

Quote:Wasn't Michael Irvin a top 5 pick?
11th

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Quote:Wasn't Michael Irvin a top 5 pick?
 

Nope, 11th overall.

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#18

Wow, I thought Irvin was like 3rd or something....thanks. 


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#19

Either way, this is merely another stat thats eventually going to be broken. Especially in the current rules favoring a pass happy era of football. 


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Quote:Not a surprising stat. Elite WRs are more of a luxury and teams picking that high probably have bigger needs than to afford a luxury pick .


WRs can be eliminated by so many factors ...double teams , weather , bad qb , bad line.


The only elite Wrs to be part of a super bowl team recently was probably Harrison or Wayne ... But they had a pretty good QB
 

1.  How are you defining "elite WRs?"

 

2.  How are you defining "recently?"

 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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