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Quarterback versus Non-Quarterback

#1
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2013, 03:53 PM by Jungle Cat.)

I like non-quarterback in the first round. Non-quarterback is more versatile.

 

Non-quarterback has flair, athleticism, and plays explosively.


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#2

Who cares about versitility; we need a quarterback more than anything. The only reason not to draft a quarterback in the first round is we don't like any who are available at our pick number.


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#3

Quote:I like non-quarterback in the first round. Non-quarterback is more versatile.

 

Non-quarterback has flair, athleticism, and plays explosively.
 

Quote:Who cares about versitility; we need a quarterback more than anything. The only reason not to draft a quarterback in the first round is we don't like any who are available at our pick number.
 

You two should have a serious debate about this.

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#4

Quote:You two should have a serious debate about this.
 

Would you like to join us? I am interested in anyone's opinion about why we should not pick a quarterback first.

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#5

Quote:Would you like to join us? I am interested in anyone's opinion about why we should not pick a quarterback first.
 

Because of the talent in other places you need to fill?

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#6
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2013, 06:37 PM by Jungle Cat.)

Quarterback is the most important position on the football team.

 

The Jaguars need to draft the best quarterback available regardless of position with each and every draft pick.

 

Bridgewater to Manziel. Manziel. No. Pass from Bridgewater to Manziel is broken up by Carr.

 

Jim, as you can see the momentary bobbled exchange between McCarron and Bridgewater at the snap allowed Carr to hand off deep coverage of Boyd to Fales. Carr made a great play on Manziel there on the jump ball.


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#7

Quote:Because of the talent in other places you need to fill?
 

The biggest hole on the team is at quarterback.

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#8

Quote:The biggest hole on the team is at quarterback.
 

If you heard Mayock rip Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, and possibly others for "not answering the bell"...the common thread is each was drafted and thrown to the wolves.

 

The Jaguars showed unusual brains by drafting Gabbert while they still had a veteran QB. They showed utter stupidity and mean-spirited ignorance cutting the veteran prematurely and throwing Gabbert to the wolves. Leftwich was another example of NOT benching a rookie quarterback to learn the pro game.

 

Here we are again crying for another victim.

 

Just keep drafting quarterbacks, baby!

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Quote:If you heard Mayock rip Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, and possibly others for "not answering the bell"...the common thread is each was drafted and thrown to the wolves.

 

The Jaguars showed unusual brains by drafting Gabbert while they still had a veteran QB. They showed utter stupidity and mean-spirited ignorance cutting the veteran prematurely and throwing Gabbert to the wolves. Leftwich was another example of NOT benching a rookie quarterback to learn the pro game.

 

Here we are again crying for another victim.

 

Just keep drafting quarterbacks, baby!
 

This is dumb. You can use multiple examples in the past several years that contradict your logic. Luck, Wilson, RGIII, Dalton, and Newton all had fine rookie seasons to varying degrees. Bradford was the Rookie of the Year.

 

It's sink or swim nowadays due to the rookie payscale making first-round quarterbacks far more easy to replace. Blaine Gabbert was probably never going to be a successful NFL player, and you're just going to have to accept that.

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Quote:If you heard Mayock rip Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, and possibly others for "not answering the bell"...the common thread is each was drafted and thrown to the wolves.

 

The Jaguars showed unusual brains by drafting Gabbert while they still had a veteran QB. They showed utter stupidity and mean-spirited ignorance cutting the veteran prematurely and throwing Gabbert to the wolves. Leftwich was another example of NOT benching a rookie quarterback to learn the pro game.

 

Here we are again crying for another victim.

 

Just keep drafting quarterbacks, baby!
 

 Being thrown to the wolves from Day 1 of his rookie season and numerous injuries his first two seasons didn't prevent Matthew Stafford from developing into a top 10 NFL QB. 


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#11

Quote: Being thrown to the wolves from Day 1 of his rookie season and numerous injuries his first two seasons didn't prevent Matthew Stafford from developing into a top 10 NFL QB. 
So clone Stafford?

 

He started 10 games as a rookie. He lost 13 games in year two.

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Quote:If you heard Mayock rip Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, and possibly others for "not answering the bell"...the common thread is each was drafted and thrown to the wolves.

 

The Jaguars showed unusual brains by drafting Gabbert while they still had a veteran QB. They showed utter stupidity and mean-spirited ignorance cutting the veteran prematurely and throwing Gabbert to the wolves. Leftwich was another example of NOT benching a rookie quarterback to learn the pro game.

 

Here we are again crying for another victim.

 

Just keep drafting quarterbacks, baby!
 

Not sure if srs.

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#13

Quote:So clone Stafford?

 

He started 10 games as a rookie. He lost 13 games in year two.
 

 Matthew Stafford only played in 3 games in year two, because of injuries.

 

 The point is that if a QB has enough ability and work ethic,  once he's relatively healthy again,  the opportunity should be present to make substantial strides.  If the QB doesn't progress enough at that point,  it raises a bright yellow flag.


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Quote:This is dumb. You can use multiple examples in the past several years that contradict your logic. Luck, Wilson, RGIII, Dalton, and Newton all had fine rookie seasons to varying degrees. Bradford was the Rookie of the Year.

 

It's sink or swim nowadays due to the rookie payscale making first-round quarterbacks far more easy to replace. Blaine Gabbert was probably never going to be a successful NFL player, and you're just going to have to accept that.
 

So quarterbacks are disposable like Bic lighters.

 

Is that right?

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#15
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2013, 07:52 PM by Jungle Cat.)

Quote:Not sure if srs.
 

Mayock was serious. He stated that Chad Henne is no more than a good-quality NFL back-up. He said it was clear the Jaguars have moved on from Blaine Gabbert. He mentioned his propensity for injury as a reason he like so many other highly drafted QBs "can't answer the bell", including Sam Bradford and Jake Locker, plus perhaps another name which escapes me.

 

The common sense thing to do is draft another quarterback and another and another. That way Mayock can knock him down, too?

 

174 quarterbacks have been drafted since 2000.

 

Keep drafting quarterbacks! Yup. Keep drafting quarterbacks. That's the smart thing to do.


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Quote:Mayock was serious. He stated that Chad Henne is no more than a good-quality NFL back-up. He said it was clear the Jaguars have moved on from Blaine Gabbert. He mentioned his propensity for injury as a reason he like so many other highly drafted QBs "can't answer the bell", including Sam Bradford and Jake Locker, plus perhaps another name which escapes me.

 

The common sense thing to do is draft another quarterback and another and another. That way Mayock can knock him down, too?

 

174 quarterbacks have been drafted since 2000. Keep drafting quarterbacks!
 

You really care that much about Mayock's opinion that much, that's a tad weird. But your examples of the Blane Gabbert/David Garrard situation and the Leftwich situation were terribly misrepresented that's the part i was really referring to. But I know you won't let that stop you!

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#17

Quote:So quarterbacks are disposable like Bic lighters.

 

Is that right?
 

Since you're just going to twist whatever someone says into fitting your troll agenda, sure. Let's go with that.

 

What do you propose that the Jaguars do at the quarterback position this offseason? Just curious.

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Have people not learned yet that conversing with jungle cat is a waste of time and energy?
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#19

Quote:Since you're just going to twist whatever someone says into fitting your troll agenda, sure. Let's go with that.

 

What do you propose that the Jaguars do at the quarterback position this offseason? Just curious.
 

He thinks we should draft Corey Robinson.  If you've never heard of him, don't feel bad.

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#20

Quote:Have people not learned yet that conversing with jungle cat is a waste of time and energy?



This!!
What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???
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