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#21

Quote:I've watched most of his games since last season and I still don't get why people think he has personality concerns.  I think he has the perfect personality when it comes to being a quarterback.  What personality concerns are you talking about?
 

A friend told me he is a "me me me" guy, so he must be doing something wrong. But I don't know what personality concerns are being reported in the media.

 

Quote:I'm more interested mobileish QBs these days, but what's the situation with Mallett?  Is he likely to hit free agency? 
 

The Patriots tried to trade him during training camp. The fact that nobody wanted him must mean the Jaguars should stay away. I remember leading up to the draft, many board memebers said they don't like him.

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#22

Quote:I will pass on all those qbs they are not worth it I would rather go with a rookie.

 

I think we will be able to get a QB in round 2 in a Boyd, or Mettenberg(acl injury now) or maybe a murray in round 3 because of his injury.

 

Im against trading back in to get the qb, last thing we need to do is trade away picks.

 

Cutler was just an idea since he will be on the market. My bet is a team who feels they have the pieces to win now will sign him.
We're gonna have a rookie either way. We WILL draft a QB at some point in the draft. If it isn't in round one, and Henne goes elsewhere, we're gonna need a veteran. Keep Gabbert? I'd rather not. If we can't keep Henne, I wouldn't mind signing Hill or Clemens. They are at the point in their career they know their role. Vet to hold the clipboard, play if needed if the rookie isn't ready or is injured, etc.

So we don't trade back into round 1 and we wait on QB til rd 2, Mettenberger or McCarron are my picks, if they are still there. Murray and Mettenberger have the same injury so if Murray's injury pushes him into round 3, wouldn't it also push Berg?

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#23

Quote:The Patriots tried to trade him during training camp. The fact that nobody wanted him must mean the Jaguars should stay away. I remember leading up to the draft, many board memebers said they don't like him.
 

"nobody wanted him" is codeword for they were asking too much for him (in draft picks).  They really didn't have all that much incentive to trade him at a low price.  Yea they may miss out on a draft pick.  But if Brady is injured, they like to know they have a guy who's been in the organization for a while to step in and take over his playoff duties.

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#24

Quote:Kellen Clemens

Matt Flynn

Josh Freeman

Rex Grossman

Shaun Hill

Charlie Whitehurst


 
 

You may as well roll with Stanzi.  If he couldn't play over these quarterbacks, why even have him on the roster? 

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#25

Quote: 

 

 

 

The Patriots tried to trade him during training camp. The fact that nobody wanted him must mean the Jaguars should stay away.

 

 
 

lol....nobody wanted Tom Brady for the first 5 rounds either....

 

And we don't know that "nobody wanted Mallett", what we do know is that nobody wanted Mallett at the price the Patriots were apparently charging to acquire him. 

 

Difference. 

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#26

Is it sad of me to say, Id rather roll with Henne than get Cutler?


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#27

I think the point is this draft is very deep at Qb many of the Qb's that will go in round 2 or 3 would have gone before any QB in last years draft.  So maybe its not the end of the world to win games!

Heck who's to say the Texans dont make a run for Cutler if he is a free agent since they have the best roster of the teams at the bottom. Meaning Teddy falls to us.

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#28

Hmmm...Teddy rookie contract + growth and potential vs Cutler's 13+ million a year and injury history. Here, let me make it easy for you: Nobody would take Cutler over Teddy when given the choice.
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#29

Quote:Yes to Barr. No to Cutler. If the Bears keep McCown, it'll take a new contract, probably cheap enough and they could draft themselves a new guy for the future. IF they are done with Cutler. Which in my opinion, if he wants a lot of ched, I'd be done with his broken up and down consistency.

But like an above poster said, if we don't go QB in the first we probably need to in the second. Which is something I've said a few times. Question is... in a QB happy league, how many get taken in the first?



 

Here's a theory, Barr at 2,3, 5, where ever.


Trade back into the first to grab a QB? We have lots of picks.


Or grab best QB at the top of 2?


 

Chad Henne will serve fine as our "bridge" QB I think.


But if someone is silly enough to lure him away for a "starting" gig.....


here's some other free agent QBs, that could be had for way cheaper than a Cutler would cost.


 

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Open Sans', sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Kellen Clemens
Matt Flynn
Josh Freeman
Rex Grossman
Shaun Hill
Charlie Whitehurst


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Any, or mostly all, of these QBs will all serve the same purpose for a Carr, McCarron, Mettenberger, Manziel (whoever we pick, whenever we pick them) start the season if necessary, but mostly play backup for the year once our guy is certainly ready, which could be day one.
I know this is going to be a super unpopular idea , but I'd sign Freeman (for what I'd expect him cost) in a heartbeat. He'll be 26 and a year removed from 4000 plus yards and 27 tds. 

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#30
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2013, 10:56 PM by HURRICANE!!!.)

Quote:Would you be happy or unhappy under the scenerio of us picking 3-5 taking a defensive player in Barr or Clowney and passing on the QB in Johhny Football, Hundley, Barr. Then signing Cutler and drafting a QB in round 2 or 3.
 

Yes -- get Cutler and Mack @ center


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#31

Quote:"nobody wanted him" is codeword for they were asking too much for him (in draft picks).  They really didn't have all that much incentive to trade him at a low price.  Yea they may miss out on a draft pick.  But if Brady is injured, they like to know they have a guy who's been in the organization for a while to step in and take over his playoff duties.
Exactly. I'm always very suspicious of that "nobody wanted him" tag. How do we know that? We don't, because we don't know what the price tag was.

And why wouldn't the Patriots want Mallet as their Matt Flynn-ish ready to plug in backup. Unless they're blown away by an offer this offseason.
The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.
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#32

Not interested in Cutler. Caldwell did say having the extra picks gives us room to move up. I wouldn't be against trading up into the 10-15 range for Carr. Manziel in the 2nd might be worth it, but I'm against trading up for him due to his attitude and injury history.
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#33

Quote:lol....nobody wanted Tom Brady for the first 5 rounds either....

 

And we don't know that "nobody wanted Mallett." What we do know is that nobody wanted Mallett at the price the Patriots were apparently charging to acquire him. 

 

Difference. 
 

If somebody really wanted Mallett bad enough he would have given the Patriots what they were asking for. Teams could have negotiated with the Patriots to see if there's a way to get Mallett for less. We will never know if it was the Patriots charging too much or other teams not liking Mallett.

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#34

Quote:Is it sad of me to say, Id rather roll with Henne than get Cutler?
 

Don't worry. Jay Cutler said he wants to stay in Chicago, so he will try to get a contract extension. I have no reason to doubt the Bears will contact his agent.

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#35

Quote:Not interested in Cutler. Caldwell did say having the extra picks gives us room to move up. I wouldn't be against trading up into the 10-15 range for Carr. Manziel in the 2nd might be worth it, but I'm against trading up for him due to his attitude and injury histy.
I agree - trading up for Carr might be worth a risk but please no Cutler...Manziel in the 2nd would not break my heart depending on what we get in the first...

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#36

Quote:I agree - trading up for Carr might be worth a risk but please no Cutler...Manziel in the 2nd would not break my heart depending on what we get in the first...
 

If you don't like Cutler why do you want Manziel?

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#37

Quote:Don't worry. Jay Cutler said he wants to stay in Chicago, so he will try to get a contract extension. I have no reason to doubt the Bears will contact his agent.
 

It shouldn't surprise anyone if Jay Cutler's asking price will be noticeably more than the Bears would be willing to pay him. There probably will be a team ( s ) that will satisfy Cutler financially but it could easily be a team ( s ) other than the Bears.  The current Bears regime wasn't in Chicago when Cutler was traded from the Broncos to the Bears.


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#38

Quote:It shouldn't surprise anyone if Jay Cutler's asking price will be noticeably more than the Bears would be willing to pay him. There probably will be a team ( s ) that will satisfy Cutler financially but it could easily be a team ( s ) other than the Bears.  The current Bears regime wasn't in Chicago when Cutler was traded from the Broncos to the Bears.
 

If the team wants Cutler as much as he wants them, they will agree on a lower salary.

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#39

Quote:Would you be happy or unhappy under the scenerio of us picking 3-5 taking a defensive player in Barr or Clowney and passing on the QB in Johhny Football, Hundley, Barr. Then signing Cutler and drafting a QB in round 2 or 3.
Try to look at it this way, if we do not select at the top it is likely that other teams will reach the same conclusion on Bridgewater and Manziel.

 

I really don't think there is any serious consensus about which college players will rise to the top level of the draft. It's really not a good idea to lock onto a small handful of players this soon without scouting reports or draft grades.

 

The draft order isn't even settled yet.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi

 

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#40

Quote:If the team wants Cutler as much as he wants them, they will agree on a lower salary.
 

Jay Cutler will very likely look to play elsewhere unless the Bears pay him like a Franchise QB.  A veteran team that has many of the ingredients of a playoff caliber roster, with QB currently being a problem area,  could easily be willing to meet Cutler's contract demands.  

 

Like I expressed earlier in this thread,  the Jaguars don't seem to be a good fit for Cutler because it's a team that's building with young players.  But a team like the Jets for instance would more likely than not jump at the opportunity for Cutler if they can acquire him as an UFA or even in a trade if the Bears place the Franchise Tag on him.


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