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Week 14 Games Of Interest

#1

Friday, December 2nd

9:00 pm - Pac 12 Title Game,  #9 Colorado vs. #5 Washington in SF

 

Saturday, December 3rd

12:30 pm - #10 Oklahoma State at #8 Oklahoma

 

4:00 pm - SEC Title Game, #1 Alabama vs. #15 Florida in Atlanta

Could get ugly 

 

8:00 pm - ACC Title Game, #4 Clemson vs. Virginia Tech, in Orlando

I think this could be the best of them all. VT playing good football right now.

 

8:00 pm - #6 Wisconson vs. #7 Penn State in Indianapolis

 

6:00 pm - Wofford at The Citadel, 2nd round FCS game

Go Dogs! Not the terriers, the Bulldogs!

 

Light week overall, any others get you excited?


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#2

It's so hard to believe both Michigan and OSU are not in the championship game when they're ranked in the top 5. Wow. 


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#3
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2016, 11:11 AM by jagherd.)

Quote:It's so hard to believe both Michigan and OSU are not in the championship game when they're ranked in the top 5. Wow.
I guess overall records don't matter when it comes to conference play? Only conference records matter?


Anyway, this year is the perfect example of why playoffs should expand to 8 teams (no more than that though,, that's too much).


8 teams guarantees the conference championship teams, plus the 3 other top schools that are REALLY GOOD, but somehow didn't win their conference. Ohio State is the perfect example of this.


It's going to happen again sometime soon for the SEC. You watch. There will be 2 or 3 elite teams in the SEC, and 1 or 2 of them won't have won their conference. Do they get left out even though they're one of the best teams in the nation?


Alabama and LSU a few seasons ago was another perfect example (just before the playoffs were initiated). That year, one of those schools did not win their side of the conference. However, they were definitely one of the best teams in the nation, and they got the rematch for the national championship game.


If only conference winners were admitted, one of those schools would've been left out, even though they were easily top 4 in the country.
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#4

Yeah, this is the main reason I think they need to do away with the divisions in the conferences.  Let the top two teams battle it out at the end of the year with the best record/tie breakers.  I'll give it to Penn State, half way through the year they looked like an average team and they really turned it around.

 

Is that Citadel game on tv?


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#5

Quote:I guess overall records don't matter when it comes to conference play? Only conference records matter?


Anyway, this year is the perfect example of why playoffs should expand to 8 teams (no more than that though,, that's too much).


8 teams guarantees the conference championship teams, plus the 3 other top schools that are REALLY GOOD, but somehow didn't win their conference. Ohio State is the perfect example of this.


It's going to happen again sometime soon for the SEC. You watch. There will be 2 or 3 elite teams in the SEC, and 1 or 2 of them won't have won their conference. Do they get left out even though they're one of the best teams in the nation?


Alabama and LSU a few seasons ago was another perfect example (just before the playoffs were initiated). That year, one of those schools did not win their side of the conference. However, they were definitely one of the best teams in the nation, and they got the rematch for the national championship game.


If only conference winners were admitted, one of those schools would've been left out, even though they were easily top 4 in the country.
 

I wonder if we'll ever see playoffs get expanded to anymore teams period. Whether 6/8/10. That means more games on these kids. Maybe take away a regular season game? I'm just thinking their health and injuries and stuff (since the Gators are completely decimated right now for example). 

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Quote:Yeah, this is the main reason I think they need to do away with the divisions in the conferences. Let the top two teams battle it out at the end of the year with the best record/tie breakers. I'll give it to Penn State, half way through the year they looked like an average team and they really turned it around.


Is that Citadel game on tv?


Agree. Some kind of change is needed.
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#7
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2016, 11:46 AM by TravC59.)

Quote:I guess overall records don't matter when it comes to conference play? Only conference records matter?


Anyway, this year is the perfect example of why playoffs should expand to 8 teams (no more than that though,, that's too much).


8 teams guarantees the conference championship teams, plus the 3 other top schools that are REALLY GOOD, but somehow didn't win their conference. Ohio State is the perfect example of this.


It's going to happen again sometime soon for the SEC. You watch. There will be 2 or 3 elite teams in the SEC, and 1 or 2 of them won't have won their conference. Do they get left out even though they're one of the best teams in the nation?


Alabama and LSU a few seasons ago was another perfect example (just before the playoffs were initiated). That year, one of those schools did not win their side of the conference. However, they were definitely one of the best teams in the nation, and they got the rematch for the national championship game.


If only conference winners were admitted, one of those schools would've been left out, even though they were easily top 4 in the country.
Why is more than 8 to much? There are 128 teams in the FBS. 

 

There are 125 FCS schools and 22 get into the playoffs which was expanded from 16 several years ago. It's more then doable. I think there are 133 schools in D-2, not all with football, and they have more then 16 in their playoffs.


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(This post was last modified: 11-28-2016, 11:46 AM by TravC59.)

Quote:Yeah, this is the main reason I think they need to do away with the divisions in the conferences.  Let the top two teams battle it out at the end of the year with the best record/tie breakers.  I'll give it to Penn State, half way through the year they looked like an average team and they really turned it around.

 

Is that Citadel game on tv?
ESPN3 


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Quote:I wonder if we'll ever see playoffs get expanded to anymore teams period. Whether 6/8/10. That means more games on these kids. Maybe take away a regular season game? I'm just thinking their health and injuries and stuff (since the Gators are completely decimated right now for example). 
The more games argument is the most terrible one that can be used. 

 

It'll be expanded at some point for sure. They are leaving a lot of money out there, and they all know it.

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#10

Health and injuries?  Are the kids in D II and D III somehow athletically superior than the guys in D 1?  They seem to be able to take the extra workload. 

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#11

Oh I'm not saying I don't want them to because of health and injuries, because yeah obviously the more games the more money they make off of it. But teams can be completely destroyed with injuries at this time of the year. Idk, I'm all for expanded playoffs no matter what. 


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#12
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2016, 12:00 PM by HURRICANE!!!.)

I'm going to have to go with crosstown Sun Belt Conference rivals Georgia State @ Idaho - Saturday @ 5pm.

 

Note:  Game being played in Moscow, Idaho.


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#13

Western Michigan vs Ohio for the MAC Championship on Friday (ESPN2) @ 7:00.

 

Not that I give Ohio much of a chance with how the Broncos are playing but you never know.


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#14

CBS is predicting an FSU/Michigan Orange Bowl. That would be awesome..


http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/bowls/predictions
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#15

That would be a fun game.  I hate to say it, but I would probably have to pick Michigan.


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#16

Quote:That would be a fun game. I hate to say it, but I would probably have to pick Michigan.


Yeah I agree. Michigan is a tall order this season.
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#17

Quote:CBS is predicting an FSU/Michigan Orange Bowl. That would be awesome..
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/bowls/predictions'>http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/bowls/predictions</a>



Damn...it's like rooting for Satan or Lucifer to win. Which one do you choose?? Roflmbo
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#18

I think 8 is inevitable.  5 major conference champions. 2 at large.  and the remaining 1 as the best mid major champion.  I'm actually really happy with 4 but I think 8 is inevitable.  8 kind of makes the non-conference schedule irrelevant as long as you win your conference.  But in the event of tie breaking or flukey conference championship game loss, with only 2 at large it would still make the non-conference games valuable if that's your only way in.  

 

16 would ruin college football though.  That's too many.  Teams like Ohio St, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc... only have 5 or 6 games a year that they could realistically lose.  But if they were to go 3-3 in those games and finish the year 9-3, they'd still basically be a lock for a playoff berth.  Bama could have lost those games against Ole Miss and A&M instead of coming back to win and it wouldn't matter, they'd be in.  USC is in even though they were horribly bad early in the year.  The Michigan - Ohio St game last weekend would have been worthless.  Both teams are in no matter.  Washington-Colorado championship game is probably worthless although perhaps CU would miss out with a loss.. maybe.  Penn St Wisconsin is probably worthless.  Both teams are in.  All the big time games during the regular season become worthless.  The only importance these games would have is seeding for the playoffs but who cares about that?  Only gamblers and people with nothing better to do are glued to their TV's wondering if Kansas City will win the division or have to settle for a road game in the 1st round.  Or if New England gets homefield advantage or has to settle for the wildcard round.  If you arent a fan of those teams, their regular season games are pointless.  College football would turn into the same thing.  




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#19

Quote:Western Michigan vs Ohio for the MAC Championship on Friday (ESPN2) @ 7:00.

 

Not that I give Ohio much of a chance with how the Broncos are playing but you never know.
 

Gotta drill holes in that boat!



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Quote:I think 8 is inevitable.  5 major conference champions. 2 at large.  and the remaining 1 as the best mid major champion.  I'm actually really happy with 4 but I think 8 is inevitable.  8 kind of makes the non-conference schedule irrelevant as long as you win your conference.  But in the event of tie breaking or flukey conference championship game loss, with only 2 at large it would still make the non-conference games valuable if that's your only way in.  

 

16 would ruin college football though.  That's too many.  Teams like Ohio St, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc... only have 5 or 6 games a year that they could realistically lose.  But if they were to go 3-3 in those games and finish the year 9-3, they'd still basically be a lock for a playoff berth.  Bama could have lost those games against Ole Miss and A&M instead of coming back to win and it wouldn't matter, they'd be in.  USC is in even though they were horribly bad early in the year.  The Michigan - Ohio St game last weekend would have been worthless.  Both teams are in no matter.  Washington-Colorado championship game is probably worthless although perhaps CU would miss out with a loss.. maybe.  Penn St Wisconsin is probably worthless.  Both teams are in.  All the big time games during the regular season become worthless.  The only importance these games would have is seeding for the playoffs but who cares about that?  Only gamblers and people with nothing better to do are glued to their TV's wondering if Kansas City will win the division or have to settle for a road game in the 1st round.  Or if New England gets homefield advantage or has to settle for the wildcard round.  If you arent a fan of those teams, their regular season games are pointless.  College football would turn into the same thing.  
 

Quote:I think 8 is inevitable.  5 major conference champions. 2 at large.  and the remaining 1 as the best mid major champion.  I'm actually really happy with 4 but I think 8 is inevitable.  8 kind of makes the non-conference schedule irrelevant as long as you win your conference.  But in the event of tie breaking or flukey conference championship game loss, with only 2 at large it would still make the non-conference games valuable if that's your only way in.  

 

16 would ruin college football though.  That's too many.  Teams like Ohio St, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc... only have 5 or 6 games a year that they could realistically lose.  But if they were to go 3-3 in those games and finish the year 9-3, they'd still basically be a lock for a playoff berth.  Bama could have lost those games against Ole Miss and A&M instead of coming back to win and it wouldn't matter, they'd be in.  USC is in even though they were horribly bad early in the year.  The Michigan - Ohio St game last weekend would have been worthless.  Both teams are in no matter.  Washington-Colorado championship game is probably worthless although perhaps CU would miss out with a loss.. maybe.  Penn St Wisconsin is probably worthless.  Both teams are in.  All the big time games during the regular season become worthless.  The only importance these games would have is seeding for the playoffs but who cares about that?  Only gamblers and people with nothing better to do are glued to their TV's wondering if Kansas City will win the division or have to settle for a road game in the 1st round.  Or if New England gets homefield advantage or has to settle for the wildcard round.  If you arent a fan of those teams, their regular season games are pointless.  College football would turn into the same thing.  
 

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