(08-01-2020, 01:52 PM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote:

(07-30-2020, 02:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yeah ok, Tiger Woods, Bobby Fischer, and Liberachi were just guys who worked hard. No mere mortal can get anything approaching the level of those guys with just hard work.

Well, you were responding to Marty. It seems to me his aspirations aren't to be the best in the world, but just to see improvement. One doesn't have to be a natural to yield those results. And again, my point is that these three things are completely different. The limitations of lack of natrual ability are different for all three. And Marty's lack of improvement in any of these three may be a flawed approach to practice. I've taught guitar in the past and have seen that multiple times.

Bottom line, the answer to Marty's issue with lack of improvement isn't "those require natural talent, so don't bother".

I'll also note that Steve Vai, arguably one of the top guitar players in the world, claims he isn't a natural on guitar, and it was him practicing 12 to 15 hours a day early on.