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Heil Victory?

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Quote:Please, no one on the left is scared he will be a great president. We are hopeful he will be just another president at worst. If the left is scared of anything, it's that the over the top, divisive and vitriolic things he has suggested and outright said are actually what he thinks and will do and that a huge portion of the country will think it is great. 

 

This part is not directed at you just a general observation. The way the right has been so completely dismissive of every single criticism of trump from people before during and after the campaign is, at best, disingenuous. Anybody with an open mind can see why people are bothered, upset, and embarrassed over his campaign and eventual election. At worst, it's open hypocrisy given the accepted criticism aimed towards Clinton. 

 

All that said, I would have expected the same things to happen had clinton won. Both were and are garbage people with garbage ideas and a laundry list of prior red flags. 
Were you worried about the divisiveness and vitriol that has been a main ingredient for the current administration for the past 8 years?  Or was that okay because of who it was directed at?

 

I don't think people on the right have been completely dismissive of anything regarding Trump.  They know exactly what they're getting, and most only came to support him when their options fell by the wayside, so they were more than likely involved in much of the criticism.  Most conservatives came to Trump late, or didn't vote for him.  There was plenty to be embarrassed about on both sides of the aisle during this campaign.

 

Both candidates were severely flawed, but at the end of the day, they were the last two standing.  Whether Trump is an effective president or not remains to be seen, but I think the reason he won is because people felt the country was headed in the wrong direction, and Clinton offered nothing but more of the same.  When 70% of polled voters say the country is going down the wrong path, you can expect a political shift.  The one thing about Trump that would not be true for Clinton is that he's beholding to the voters.  His campaign was not a pandering act aimed at big money donors, and he sure as heck didn't offer to sell access to the office.  Whatever else is wrong with the guy, this represents a great opportunity for actual change in DC and not just the same old lip service we're paid every 4 years.  If he doesn't deliver, he'll hear from his constituency loud and clear in 4 years.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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