(07-07-2017, 07:41 PM)rollerjag Wrote:

(07-06-2017, 01:30 PM)FBT Wrote: There is nothing to it as far as linking Trump or any of his minions to Russian tampering in the election.  That's pretty clear by now.

That doesn't mean there's nothing to the Russian tampering story.  The Obama administration (according to that right wing icon in the media, The Washington Post) was acutely aware of the tampering that was being attempted.  Obama was so paralyzed by the potential political ramifications, that they did nothing to respond or retaliate for the tampering despite having multiple plans offered up by members of his administration to do just that.  He chose to sit on his hands and issue weak sanctions and a couple of stern finger wags to Putin.  They figured they would have a Clinton administration that would deal with it once the election was over.  That inaction by the administration allowed this story to fester, all because he was concerned about how it would look politically.  He deserves criticism despite the fawning article WaPo put out trying to portray him as the tortured hero.

Are we to believe that if Obama had acted more forcibly, the right would not have lost their minds complaining about his motives?

Trump's reluctance to accept the truth about Russian interference is equally troubling. At least he brought it up with Putin today.

Some would have, but not all, and that should be completely irrelevant.  It's called doing the right thing.  If a nation state is legitimately trying to tamper with an election, that warrants a response far more forceful than a limp wristed finger wag and some weak sanctions.  He did nothing because he thought Hillary could deal with it once she won.  Someone threw a wrench in their fantasy plan.

Trump recognizes that there's a possibility that there was probably more than just Russia tampering with the election.  He also understands that for all the outrage the democrats are faking now, the reality is that tampering happens in every election, and the United States is just as guilty as any other nation.  Look at the last Israeli elections as an example.  Obama actually sent his political operatives to help the campaign against Netanyahu.  As far as I'm concerned, the fact that Trump brought it up multiple times with Putin yesterday shows pretty clearly that he was only reluctant to say anything to the media about what he believed transpired.  

Had he lost the election, nobody would be crying about Russian interference, especially knowing how Clinton pretty much laid out spread eagle for anyone willing to pump enough money into he campaign coffers and her family slush fund regardless of who they were or what they represented.  This is only an issue because, despite all of the foreign investments made in her being the next president, she ended up wandering the woods of Chapaqua looking for unsuspecting hikers in need of a photo bomb.

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