(12-19-2019, 09:26 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:

(12-18-2019, 09:53 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Does anyone else find it disturbing that if the Democrats controlled the Senate, an American president would he impeached because they didn't like him?

This is some scary crap.

It disturbs me more that our highly educated Senate and House Officials can't evaluate charges independent of their party affiliation.  

Regarding your question, he same exact thing was going on with the Clinton impeachment.  It's just that now the tables have been turned.

Yes, it's a bad precedence that the "other party" will always go after the President.

I question why the 2+ party system is even necessary.  Let's just vote for local and national candidates in a single vote.  Candidates won't have a party affiliation but can cite their position on key issues for the people to determine their vote.



CLINTON 

Voting in the House of Representatives
Accusation
Perjury
Votes in favor
228
Votes against
206
Result
Approved


Accusation
Obstruction of justice
Votes in favor
221
Votes against
212
Result
Approved


Voting in the Senate
Accusation
Perjury
Votes in favor
45
Votes against
55
Result
Fail

Accusation
Obstruction of justice
Votes in favor
50
Votes against
50
Result
Fail

You would need the power to change the law in all 50 states to make anything like that happen.  In Florida we already vote for all state offices on the same day as the federal elections.  The issue is that our state (and most states) have a lot of rules about partisan, multi-ballot, primary elections and a lot of good people don't want to play along with that anymore.  They don't participate in the primaries, so the primaries produce extremely partisan candidates.  California, Washington, and Lousiana have departed from that system, but that's just 3 out of 50 states.  The other 47 states still have processes that prioritize party affiliation, and they send candidates to Washington DC that will bring partisan perspectives and create a partisan national conversation that drowns out any less-partisan state level conversation.  If anything, putting our state elections on a different day from federal elections might help.  But it's hard to expect anything to meaningfully change unless they make a federal law changing how primary elections for federal office should work.

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