(12-26-2019, 11:32 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(12-26-2019, 08:46 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
What "propaganda" did he ask Ukraine to publish? I must have missed that part of the phone transcript.

You must have missed the testimony during the house hearings.  It was a recurring thing.  Trump didn't care about any specifics of Ukraine's corruption and didn't even know what an investigation should look like.  He wanted an announcement of an investigation, in the American media, nothing more.  That's propaganda.

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(12-26-2019, 09:50 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: So he should be impeached because he didn't do what somebody thought he should do, even though he has complete and total discretion in these matters and they have none?  

He didn't do what every other President in living memory would have done in the situation.  Including Nixon. So "somebody" is an awful lot of people.

Notice how the left is pontificating about "caring" "feeling" etc.  

Rational people focus on standards of suspicion & probable cause.  

The man lost 7 billion dollars in aid money and enriched his family.  Did any of the opinion witnesses locate our 7 billion dollars?  Did they explain the path of the money from burisma through 4 countries to hunter biden?  Did they explain why joe biden lied about the status of the investigation for the last half decade?  Did they call John Kerry's son to have him recount that he cut his business ties with biden because Burisma smelled so bad?  

The idea that the chief executive wouldn't be concerned about corruption that specifically targeted HIS campaign with propaganda and got his campaign manager thrown in jail is asinine.  

U dont care about an ambassador admitting in open court that she allowed Ukrainian election interference.  U dont care that fiona hill worked with Christopher steel.  U dont care that bill Taylor did work for NGO's funded by burisma.  You dont care that George Kent testified that he himself had to cancel planned projects with Burisma because of the appearance of a conflict of interest.  U dont care that it's part of the open record that ukrainian sources contributed to the propaganda used to spy on the trump campaign.  U dont care that the head of the nbu in ukrain was convicted of election interference (let off because of the statute of limitations) .  U dont care that the chief executive has a DUTY under a treaty with ukrain to report corruption.  

The only thing you care about is #orangemanbad

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