(01-26-2020, 08:30 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-26-2020, 08:20 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
Three lies in one single sentence. You've reached a whole new level of trolling.

So you think it's fair to use the power of the White House to get foreign governments to investigate your political opponents without probable cause?

(01-26-2020, 08:46 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(01-26-2020, 08:30 PM)mikesez Wrote: So you think it's fair to use the power of the White House to get foreign governments to investigate your political opponents without probable cause?

Well, son of a [BLEEP]!

Insta-probable cause!

(01-26-2020, 09:11 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-26-2020, 08:39 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: You don’t need probable cause to open an investigation. I’d suspect that most investigations don’t have it in the beginning anyway.

You don't need probable anything to hire a private investigator. You and I could put our money together right now and hire one. Everything would be on the up and up.  But we would not be allowed to go around and tell people, "hey if you don't talk to this guy, we're going to take your welfare check away!"

(01-26-2020, 09:17 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(01-26-2020, 09:11 PM)mikesez Wrote: You don't need anything to send over a private investigator. You and I could put our money together right now and hire one. Everything would be on the up and up.  But we would not be allowed to go around and tell people, "hey if you don't talk to this guy, we're going to take your welfare check away!"

I'm pretty sure that government investigators lie to people all the time with threats that can't be completed in order to get them to talk.

And nowhere in either conversation between Trump and Zelensky did Trump ever threaten to take Ukraine's welfare check away, so lie #5.