(01-27-2020, 10:33 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(01-27-2020, 09:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: 1. It's an expression.  If you just follow someone for a few blocks, it's nothing.  If wait outside and then continue following them when they come out, that's more like following them "everywhere they go". Whatever they did was enough to be noticed.

2. Pushing a narrative where he "stood up" to the US President would be brave, yes, but not in his national interest to make an enemy of the most powerful man in the world, don't you agree?

1. I've never heard it used except when meant literally. Even if the ambassador was followed at times your claim was a huge exaggeration. It's not against US law to track someone in a foreign country, especially if there is suspicion that the person is working against the US.

2. Not the most powerful man if he's kicked out of office. In any case Zelensky should know by now that Trump can't block any aid approved by Congress.

Finally, although I have not read Bolton's book, I have read that it states that Trump truly believed that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. Under that circumstance any action he proposed to investigate Ukraine or have Ukraine explain its role in the 2016 election is 100% justified.

Game Over!

1) right, a lot of US laws don't apply outside the US.  But Ukrainian laws do apply in Ukraine. Parnas and friends did something wrong. How wrong, we'll find out. This investigation *was* announced. Ukraine and US both investigating different crimes.

2) Zelensky doesn't understand our system that well.  No one does. Not even us. He wants to stay out of our poop and not make enemies.  It's the only smart play for him.

3) Trump appointed Christopher Wray to know about that kind of thing.  Wray says Ukraine did not interfere nearly as much as Russia did. Why is Trump not trusting the people he appointed? And even if Ukraine interfered in our 2016 election  similar to how Russia did, what does that have to do with Hunter Biden?

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