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*** THE OFFICIAL IMPEACHMENT THREAD ***

  • Offline MalabarJag
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01-27-2020, 11:37 PM

(01-27-2020, 10:57 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-27-2020, 10:33 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
1. I've never heard it used except when meant literally. Even if the ambassador was followed at times your claim was a huge exaggeration. It's not against US law to track someone in a foreign country, especially if there is suspicion that the person is working against the US.

2. Not the most powerful man if he's kicked out of office. In any case Zelensky should know by now that Trump can't block any aid approved by Congress.

Finally, although I have not read Bolton's book, I have read that it states that Trump truly believed that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. Under that circumstance any action he proposed to investigate Ukraine or have Ukraine explain its role in the 2016 election is 100% justified.

Game Over!

1) right, a lot of US laws don't apply outside the US.  But Ukrainian laws do apply in Ukraine. Parnas and friends did something wrong. How wrong, we'll find out. This investigation *was* announced. Ukraine and US both investigating different crimes.

2) Zelensky doesn't understand our system that well.  No one does. Not even us. He wants to stay out of our poop and not make enemies.  It's the only smart play for him.

3) Trump appointed Christopher Wray to know about that kind of thing.  Wray says Ukraine did not interfere nearly as much as Russia did. Why is Trump not trusting the people he appointed? And even if Ukraine interfered in our 2016 election  similar to how Russia did, what does that have to do with Hunter Biden?

1. What investigation was announced? And by whom?

2. You think Zelensky had reason to lie (or you're parroting a Dem talking point). I've shown that it's reasonable to assume that he wasn't lying. Since you (or Schiff) don't have a definitive answer here there is no reason to claim that Trump ever threatened to withhold military funds until he received anything in return.

3. So (say) 10% of the assumed Russia interference is not worthy of investigation? We spent over a year on the Mueller investigation of Russian interference, surely Ukraine was worth a month or so.

Hunter Biden was only mentioned in passing in the phone call. But you know that, and continue to lie about it. It was on par with "I hear your brother in law had sex with his mother. Any truth to that?" Trump's main request (not demand or bargaining point) was about Crowdstrike, which was a Democratic Party asset and very well may have interfered in the 2016 election (and if so the Russian interference would have been overstated).



                                                                          

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homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 12-28-2019, 01:59 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-16-2020, 08:21 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-21-2020, 04:06 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 01-21-2020, 04:18 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-22-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-22-2020, 01:32 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-23-2020, 01:37 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-23-2020, 01:43 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-23-2020, 02:18 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 01-23-2020, 03:42 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-24-2020, 12:58 PM
RE: *** THE OFFICIAL IMPEACHMENT THREAD *** - by MalabarJag - 01-27-2020, 11:37 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 01-30-2020, 02:47 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 12-18-2019, 01:57 PM



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