(01-28-2020, 02:01 PM)Last42min Wrote: I disagree with lots of posters on this board. You're not special. You're just dense.

I take issue with the way YOU argue. It's not intellectually honest. You don't have a consistent standard. You move the goal posts. You start with your conclusion, then twist all your premises to fit. It's a backwards way of thinking. I used to spend time showing you how you used faulty logic, but even that's a waste of time.

No, I start with things that I think are facts, but you don't accept because you're tuned in to a different narrative.  You think I should have to prove those things.  Maybe I should. But you can say, "I haven't heard about that.  Tell me where you heard about that." Instead you say, "you're a liar!!"

Sometimes I decide to accept someone's premises, for the sake of argument, then ask questions that are meant to show that their logic was circular or their conclusion doesn't even follow from that premise.  That's frustrating, I'm sure, because to some of you the conclusion follows so obviously from the premise that me accepting the premise must mean I'm giving up the argument. Then me asking another question from there must be moving the goal post. But it's not moving the goal post. If I had said, "I'll accept your point of view if you can show..." then you show it, and I still don't accept, that's moving the goal posts. But I never say things like that. I never offer to agree with any of you. Any of you could persuade me, but I'm not going to offer the terms in advance.

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