(05-26-2020, 12:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(05-26-2020, 12:09 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
Pretty sure J. Biden was the one who wanted Ukraine to invest in H. Biden.

Seriously, I don't remember JJ (or any other poster not a member of #orangemanbad) saying that. What might have been said is that it would have been a legitimate request, and far from a matter worthy of impeachment. 

Still touting your presumption, and one not based on what we know. If Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate Biden he would have asked during the phone call. It was clear from what he said then that he wanted Ukraine to share any information they had on Crowdstrike* and Bursima with Barr. That does not request Ukraine digging up any additional information beyond what was already known, which is what "investigate" implies.

*Crowdstrike has since admitted that they don't have any solid evidence that Russia hacked the DNC server (or even that it was hacked), although that was claimed publicly over and over.

That's an autocorrect error above, it's supposed to read "investigate" not "invest".  I think you understood that already, just making sure.

Anyhow, you're just going to feel like I'm moving the goalposts if we really pursue this further.  The parts you admit to Trump saying and doing were still inappropriate and abusive. And you should be able to figure that out simply by asking how you would feel if Obama had done these types of things to Romney and to Romney's kids and associates.