(05-28-2020, 08:11 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(05-28-2020, 08:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: Let's suppose you're right about that.
I doubt I will ever be bored enough to determine which officials in Ukraine were corrupt. I would probably have to learn the language before I could form an informed opinion. But sure, I will go with your opinion.
A bunch of different people wanted the guy fired for a bunch of different reasons, but the guy wasn't corrupt.
It's still not credible for the president of that country to say that he only fired the guy for one of those people and no one else.
I mean seriously.
Smell your own stuff before you put it out here like this.
Look up how much aid the US gave to Ukraine over the years.
Then look up how much loans the IMF gave them.
Which of the two organizations do you think is more influential on their behavior?

So would you rather someone loaned you money or would you prefer to be handed money?

Ok.
A really big loan can be more impactful than a small gift, but let's not get bogged down figuring out what the conversion factor should be.
Let's compare gifts to gifts.
How much money does the US give them
Versus
How much money does the EU give them?

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(05-28-2020, 09:07 PM)Last42min Wrote: He won't ever be bored enough to figure out the answer to that question.

I saw a tray of funny looking meat on the butcher counter at an ethnic grocer recently.  Label said goat penis.  I have a sudden urge to buy it and bring it to your house. I think you would enjoy it.

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