If we got put in a division with only us, we would still be 2nd place somehow.

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The GM is talking in circles there, he is just saying crap to keep the fans from panicking

Much like Marrone saying Bortles looks as good as he's ever seen perhaps?

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The GM is talking in circles there, he is just saying crap to keep the fans from panicking

Much like Marrone saying Bortles looks as good as he's ever seen perhaps?

Well Marrone is the coach not the GM, the Colts coach said he has not seen Luck throw, coaches prob tell the truth a lil more

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<B><FONT color=cyan>Jags this is your year</FONT></B>

I'd take Luck in a heartbeat. 43 - 27 as a starter. 132 TD's compared to just 68 INT's. 63.5% completion percentage last year with no running game, no pass protection and no defense. Threw up 31 TD's and only 13 INT's. He's 2015 Bortles statistically EVERY YEAR on winning teams. 

Still cracked the .500 mark with an 8 - 7 record as the starter in 2016 with his body all beat to hell the last two years. Three straight years of 11 - 5 records when he came into the NFL. Is he Peyton Manning? No. Is he Tom Brady? No. Did he live up to his draft expectations and the critics? Absolutely. 


The problem with the clots is Chuck Pagano and Jim Irsay. They should have kept Bruce Arians when they had the chance as the head coach. They would have been much better off. But Luck has more than held up his end of the bargain. Even Manning had good pieces around him. Luck has honestly only had Hilton and that's IT. He had Wayne while he was on the tail end of his career. Luck has done something Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater, Mariota, Winston, RGIII and a few other recently drafted QB's can't do. And that's carry a football team as an actual franchise Quarterback.

No no... I get it... his stats are pretty good.
And surely, I'd take his last 4 seasons over what we've had...even though in 2015 he was playing pretty poorly and marred with injury.

But he was hyped up and sold as one-in-a-lifetime prospect.
And THAT I haven't seen. He's just a typical first round QB.  I think he was a high floor low ceiling prospect and has filled that out perfectly.
They still need better play (and players) around him for him to do anything other than win the AFCS.
He's not franchise changing type QB he was sold up to be pre-draft though... is all I'm sayin. I guess you can compare him to young guns still fresh and former first round busts... But I compare him to big money QBs. Ryan, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Ben, 
Hasselbeck could get the clots to an 8-7 record man....
There's a lot of people that think this way too... so I know I'm not crazy.

Not many had Ryan in that category a year ago.

What a difference a year makes.

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Sooooooooo negative, let's just wait and see?

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80% of what I talk about is nonesense.. the other 25% is made up statistics...