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Myers

#41

The NFL changed the rules on extra points to make it not automatic anymore. Meyers is not doing any worse than lots of kickers in the league. The league is getting what they want, the team to think about going for two instead of the formally automatic one extra point. Last year there was more missed extra points since 1977. This can be directly attributed to the rule change. The extra point average last year was 94.5 percent league wide compared to its high of 99. It has run around 97% since 1988.

The rule change was made to increase a sense of strategy in extra points, as well as make the play more exciting (for the other team maybe).
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#42

(09-16-2017, 04:43 AM)jseymour Wrote: The NFL changed the rules on extra points to make it not automatic anymore. Meyers is not doing any worse than lots of kickers in the league. The league is getting what they want, the team to think about going for two instead of the formally automatic one extra point. Last year there was more missed extra points since 1977. This can be directly attributed to the rule change. The extra point average last year was 94.5 percent league wide compared to its high of 99. It has run around 97% since 1988.

The rule change was made to increase a sense of strategy in extra points, as well as make the play more exciting (for the other team maybe).
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no1curr this is about a player on our team. Not the whole league. And lest we forget he missed an actual FG and not an extra point. Stop.
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#43

He sucks.
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#44

(09-16-2017, 12:53 PM)trunt87 Wrote: He sucks.
Hot take.



You're not wrong though.
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#45

(09-16-2017, 01:11 PM)foo895 Wrote:
(09-16-2017, 12:53 PM)trunt87 Wrote: He sucks.
Hot take.



You're not wrong though.

Pretty much all that needs to be said at this point.
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#46

Well lets see:

Myers had 34 field goal attempts last year. His long was 56 yards. 20-29 yards he was 7 0f 7. 30 to 39 yards he was 3 of 4. 40 to 49 yards he was 10 of 11. 50+ yards he was 7 of 12. we had the most attempts of over 50 yards in the league. 50+ yards is in no way a gimme. Most teams had less than 6 attempts at over 50 yards. Last year extra point attempts was 32 extra points made was 29. A good portion of the league missed 2 to 3 extra points last year.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/.../year/2016
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#47

Here's a snapshot of Myers vs Lambo (who they tried out) Top is Myers, bottom Lambo. Give me Lambo.

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#48

I do not see much difference in either Lambo or Myers. It helps define if you breakdown the yardage of kicks.

2015
Field Goals Made Leaders
FIELD GOALS EXTRA POINTS RK
TEAM FGM FGA PCT LNG 1-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ XPM XPA PCT
Jacksonville 26 30 86.7 58 0-0 9-10 8-8 6-8 3-4 32 39 82.1
2016
Jacksonville 27 34 79.4 56 0-0 7-7 3-4 10-11 7-12 29 32 90.6

Now 79.5 percent is low in 2016, but setting him up for failure with 12 attempts over 50 yards needs to be taken into account.

Now do I think Myers is an elite kicker, not on your life. But he is average to above average put in the right situations.

Now making a 58 yard in 2015 and a 56 yarder in 2016 in no small stat. He does have a leg.
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#49

(09-16-2017, 09:09 PM)jseymour Wrote: I do not see much difference in either Lambo or Myers. It helps define if you breakdown the yardage of kicks.

2015
Field Goals Made Leaders
FIELD GOALS EXTRA POINTS RK
TEAM     FGM FGA PCT LNG 1-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ XPM XPA PCT
Jacksonville 26 30 86.7 58 0-0 9-10  8-8        6-8        3-4 32 39 82.1
2016
Jacksonville 27 34 79.4 56 0-0 7-7 3-4      10-11       7-12 29 32 90.6

Now 79.5 percent is low in 2016, but setting him up for failure with 12 attempts over 50 yards needs to be taken into account.

Now do I think Myers is an elite kicker, not on your life. But he is average to above average put in the right situations.

Now making a 58 yard in 2015 and a 56 yarder in 2016 in no small stat. He does have a leg.

True. There's not a huge difference. To be honest it's not even the FGs that concern me, it's the PATs. Lambo's % is better. As mentioned before though, it's just how much movement Myers kicks have. They all seem lucky to make it through the uprights. Lambo's kicks just feel safer. 

Honestly, Myers distance ability is the only thing keeping him employed IMO
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#50

Lambo is 21 of 32 (65.6%) on 40+ yard FGs. He's 17 of 24 (70.8%) in the 40 to 49 yard range. Last year he was 0 for 3 on FGs of 50+ yards.

Compare this to Myers...

Myers is 27 of 36 (75.0%) on 40+ yards FGs. He's 17 of 20 (85.0%) in the 40 to 49 yard range. Last year he was 7 of 12 (58.3%) of FGs of 50+ yards.

Not to be left out I might as well look at Andrew Franks...

Franks is 7 of 13 (53.8%) on 40+ yards FGs. He's 5 of 9 (55.6%) in the 40 to 49 yard range. Last year he was 1 of 2 (50.0%) on FGs of 50+ yards.


Looking at these comparisons, Myers is much better on the deeper kicks.
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#51

Myers is the GOAT, you guys are nuts!!!

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#52

(09-17-2017, 08:51 AM)Jags32250 Wrote: Myers is the GOAT, you guys are nuts!!!

Myers to the Pro Bowl this year after he kicks the game-winning 57 yard field goal to beat the Tacks today!
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#53

(09-17-2017, 09:03 AM)navyjagfan Wrote:
(09-17-2017, 08:51 AM)Jags32250 Wrote: Myers is the GOAT, you guys are nuts!!!

Myers to the Pro Bowl this year after he kicks the game-winning 57 yard field goal to beat the Tacks today!

Or.... 


Marrone to coach the Pro Bowl after he kicks Myers in the balls after missing another FG..
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#54

(09-03-2017, 10:38 PM)Upper Wrote: We should have claimed Elliott.

Andre Perrotta‏
Jake Elliott is 3/3 in the first half, all from 40yds and longer (45yds, 40yds, and now good from 53yds).

Oh yeah that's in addition to the record walkoff 61 yarder to win the game last week.
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#55

At this point, you decide. Do you want a veteran who is money on XP and 40 yarders and isn't likely to make a 55 yarder, or a guy like Myers? I'm taking the former all day every day.
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#56

What about Cairo Santos? Wasn't he one of the better kickers before his injury?
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#57

I am still geuniinely stumped on why that trash can, um excuse me, Myers is one this roster. It's like the coaches and front office doesn't care that he regularly costs us points.
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