(10-17-2017, 12:55 PM)jradMITEX Wrote: (10-16-2017, 06:12 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: You are ignorant if you think people are making the comparison based on race. Both players were dual threats in college, Heisman Trophy finalists (Robert Griffin won it), and able to find the end zone more times than almost any other rookie QB in NFL history. The fact they are both black is a coincidence.
For whatever reason people are comparing him to RG3, but if you examine their tape, the comparison just doesn't hold water. RG3 was able to be successful out of a pistol derivation of the Shanahan ZBS offense that heavily relied on boots and Run/Pass options. If you watch Watson and the Texans O, you'll see they aren't running that many boots (Should run more IMO), and he is setting up in the pocket, buying time with his feet, but always looking to throw. Over the last few games he could have ran more in some 3rd and 5 situations IMO, but he no doubt is a pocket passer with escapability. Another reason people are trying to compare Watson to RG3 is because of how bad RG3 went after the injuries. It seems to be the best argument to discount what he's done now despite the lack of actual similarities. Another thing people are missing in this is that Watson's best skill, and the reason he will be a franchise QB IMO, is the composure. He is completely cool under pressure, never panics, doesn't get frantic. This can't be taught its god given. You combine that will the escapability and decision making and you really got something. Imagine if the Texans actually had a solid O-line, we are talking about an even higher level of play potentially which for opposing teams should be scary. The future is extremely bright for him.
You can't specifically knock for passing on Watson. The entire NFL made the same mistake. I will knock them for taking a RB with the fourth pick in a draft littered with good RB's. History is full of great running backs going later and many busts going early. You can also knock the Jags for picking up BB's option which will hamstring them somewhat next year and probably kept them from picking up one of the middle guys this past draft.
(10-17-2017, 01:00 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: The fact 2017 was a RB-heavy draft does not by itself make drafting Leonard Fournette a bad decision. Nobody can watch him play this year and honestly believe he is a bust at #4 - which would be the only reason to hate the pick.
I love how everyone is saying let's wait and see for Watson in one breath then declaring Fournette the real deal with the other. If time is needed for one then so is for the other.
Fournette can very well still be a bust of a pick , and yes you can definitely knock the pick for the deep group of RB's, as well as the fact that RB is not that important of a position, easier to replace, and short lived and injury prone. One of the risks of taking Fournette was the injuries, he missed games in college. His running style will be very punishing to his body, and low and behold he's already hurt his ankle this year just like in college. It remains to be seen how his body will hold up over the course of a season and if his effectiveness will wane and his body takes punishment. If RG3 and VY are cautionary tales in the history of QB's there are probably dozens of RB's who had good first few games only to be shut down and injured. Cadillac Williams comes to mind as one.
Fournette has had a few super long runs (75 and 90) to his credit, but outside of those he is being contained. Don't mistake knocking the pick with knocking the player, I just think there were more impactful players available there or trade down options that bring more value to the team. Especially in the context of a deep group of Rb's.
