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2018 Free Agent QB's

#1

Saw on ESPN the top projected Free Agents next year. Assuming Bortles doesn't make huge strides the rest of the season, some interesting names:

Kirk Cousins: Huge price tag.
Jimmy Garoppolo: Pats might keep him.
Drew Brees:  Saints might keep him
Sam Bradford: To injury prone
Teddy Bridgewater: Seems like drafting a QB is less risky

If we were able to come up with the money, Cousins might be an option. If the Pats stick with Brady and cant afford to pay both, Garoppolo would be interesting.
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#2

Brees would be a dream come true for our offense. He's the only "true" free agent QB as Saints can't tag him either.

I'd add Case Keenum to the list. He's playing good football right now and would fill in nicely as a bridge QB for a early round QB we take in the draft. He certainly won't cost near as much as the rest of those guys
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#3

(10-11-2017, 09:49 PM)knarnn Wrote: Brees would be a dream come true for our offense. He's the only "true" free agent QB as Saints can't tag him either.

I'd add Case Keenum to the list. He's playing good football right now and would fill in nicely as a bridge QB for a early round QB we take in the draft. He certainly won't cost near as much as the rest of those guys

Why can't the Saints tag Drew Brees?

I know this much: There is no reason to think for one second Brees will leave New Orleans until he actually says so.

There also is no reason to think Kirk Cousins would want to play for the Jaguars or that Tom Coughlin would pay him $35 annually.

How do I know? Because I read official news stories, of course.
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#4

(10-11-2017, 10:01 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 09:49 PM)knarnn Wrote: Brees would be a dream come true for our offense. He's the only "true" free agent QB as Saints can't tag him either.

I'd add Case Keenum to the list. He's playing good football right now and would fill in nicely as a bridge QB for a early round QB we take in the draft. He certainly won't cost near as much as the rest of those guys

Why can't the Saints tag Drew Brees?

I know this much: There is no reason to think for one second Brees will leave New Orleans until he actually says so.

There also is no reason to think Kirk Cousins would want to play for the Jaguars or that Tom Coughlin would pay him $35 annually.

How do I know? Because I read official news stories, of course.

Brees has a no franchise tag clause in his contract.
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#5

(10-11-2017, 10:02 PM)knarnn Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 10:01 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: Why can't the Saints tag Drew Brees?

I know this much: There is no reason to think for one second Brees will leave New Orleans until he actually says so.

There also is no reason to think Kirk Cousins would want to play for the Jaguars or that Tom Coughlin would pay him $35 annually.

How do I know? Because I read official news stories, of course.

Brees has a no franchise tag clause in his contract.

I am sure a lot of players would love to have that in their contracts.
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#6

Iono, it's pretty rare that any QB that would "be a dream come true" for another team leaves their current team in FA. It's happened what like 3 times this generation?
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#7

Salary cap wise it might be just be best to draft a rookie. QB is our only pressing need at the moment anyway. You can afford to give up some draft capital to move up if you want. Your game is gonna be lean on the run and to play good defense. Your QB doesn't have to come out and be Brady right away. Just needs to complete some basic throws.
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#8
(This post was last modified: 10-12-2017, 07:32 AM by The Real Marty.)

(10-11-2017, 09:49 PM)knarnn Wrote: Brees would be a dream come true for our offense. He's the only "true" free agent QB as Saints can't tag him either.

I'd add Case Keenum to the list. He's playing good football right now and would fill in nicely as a bridge QB for a early round QB we take in the draft. He certainly won't cost near as much as the rest of those guys

Unfortunately, Drew Brees is 39 years old.

I would try to go after Jimmy Garropolo. He's at the end of his deal, and the Pats would have to pay him the franchise tag salary of 22 million for him to just sit on the bench behind Brady. So they might not want to do that. So we'd have to offer him a big free agent contract.

A lot of these other guys are too old for me.
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#9
(This post was last modified: 10-12-2017, 07:47 AM by flgatorsandjags.)

(10-12-2017, 07:28 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 09:49 PM)knarnn Wrote: Brees would be a dream come true for our offense. He's the only "true" free agent QB as Saints can't tag him either.

I'd add Case Keenum to the list. He's playing good football right now and would fill in nicely as a bridge QB for a early round QB we take in the draft. He certainly won't cost near as much as the rest of those guys

Unfortunately, Drew Brees is 39 years old.

I would try to go after Jimmy Garropolo.  He's at the end of his deal, and the Pats would have to pay him the franchise tag salary of 22 million for him to just sit on the bench behind Brady.  So they might not want to do that.  So we'd have to offer him a big free agent contract.  

A lot of these other guys are too old for me.
That's why you try to get Brees or trade for Rivers and still draft your QB of the future.  No way do you give Garropolo a huge contract when he is still really an unknown when you can just draft a guy
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#10

(10-11-2017, 10:24 PM)haveaseat Wrote: Salary cap wise it might be just be best to draft a rookie. QB is our only pressing need at the moment anyway. You can afford to give up some draft capital to move up if you want. Your game is gonna be lean on the run and to play good defense. Your QB doesn't have to come out and be Brady right away. Just needs to complete some basic throws.

can you name some basic throws Blake has missed this season because i'm asking you seriously base on i don't recall that being the case except for the crossing pattern to lee in the titans game. I thought his mechanics has been fine so far and if you disagree let me know because maybe i'm missing something here.
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#11

(10-12-2017, 07:47 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(10-12-2017, 07:28 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Unfortunately, Drew Brees is 39 years old.

I would try to go after Jimmy Garropolo.  He's at the end of his deal, and the Pats would have to pay him the franchise tag salary of 22 million for him to just sit on the bench behind Brady.  So they might not want to do that.  So we'd have to offer him a big free agent contract.  

A lot of these other guys are too old for me.
That's why you try to get Brees or trade for Rivers and still draft your QB of the future.  No way do you give Garropolo a huge contract when he is still really an unknown when you can just draft a guy
Gimme Rivers and draft a QB for next year.
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#12

(10-12-2017, 08:31 AM)Frailbones Wrote:
(10-12-2017, 07:47 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: That's why you try to get Brees or trade for Rivers and still draft your QB of the future.  No way do you give Garropolo a huge contract when he is still really an unknown when you can just draft a guy
Gimme Rivers and draft a QB for next year.

Phillip Rivers has unperformed for the last 3 years turnover wise and record wise so why do you want him or is your decision on him base on perception not reality?
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#13

(10-12-2017, 08:43 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(10-12-2017, 08:31 AM)Frailbones Wrote: Gimme Rivers and draft a QB for next year.

Phillip Rivers has unperformed for the last 3 years turnover wise and record wise so why do you want him or is your decision on him base on perception not reality?
Rivers is better than Blake. That's what it's based on.
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#14

(10-12-2017, 08:30 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 10:24 PM)haveaseat Wrote: Salary cap wise it might be just be best to draft a rookie. QB is our only pressing need at the moment anyway. You can afford to give up some draft capital to move up if you want. Your game is gonna be lean on the run and to play good defense. Your QB doesn't have to come out and be Brady right away. Just needs to complete some basic throws.

can you name some basic throws Blake has missed this season because i'm asking you seriously base on i don't recall that being the case except for the crossing pattern to lee in the titans game. I thought his mechanics has been fine so far and if you disagree let me know because maybe i'm missing something here.

So you thought he looked good against the Jets? Really?
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#15

(10-12-2017, 08:48 AM)Frailbones Wrote:
(10-12-2017, 08:43 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: Phillip Rivers has unperformed for the last 3 years turnover wise and record wise so why do you want him or is your decision on him base on perception not reality?
Rivers is better than Blake. That's what it's based on.

I guess so but can't be too much better if he can get his franchise to respectability and they have a talented team as well the last 3 years.
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#16

(10-12-2017, 08:51 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:
(10-12-2017, 08:48 AM)Frailbones Wrote: Rivers is better than Blake. That's what it's based on.

I guess so but can't be too much better if he can get his franchise to respectability and they have a talented team as well the last 3 years.
He's playing in a division with 3 of the best teams in football. 6 games a year.

Jags plays against poo poo.
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#17

Rivers would be nice but he’s not a potential free agent. The chargers may hold on to him and it may cost to get him.

The best bet is to sign Brees to a two or three year deal, let him try one last swing with us and still draft a guy in the first round to sit and learn behind him during that time.

That would be perfect.
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#18
(This post was last modified: 10-12-2017, 09:03 AM by leopold332002.)

(10-12-2017, 08:50 AM)Rico Wrote:
(10-12-2017, 08:30 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: can you name some basic throws Blake has missed this season because i'm asking you seriously base on i don't recall that being the case except for the crossing pattern to lee in the titans game. I thought his mechanics has been fine so far and if you disagree let me know because maybe i'm missing something here.

So you thought he looked good against the Jets? Really?

No he was bad against the Jets but they could have still won the game and my point is he wasn't the reason why they lost the game like some are claiming on here.

(10-12-2017, 08:55 AM)Frailbones Wrote:
(10-12-2017, 08:51 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: I guess so but can't be too much better if he can get his franchise to respectability and they have a talented team as well the last 3 years.
He's playing in a division with 3 of the best teams in football. 6 games a year.

Jags plays against poo poo.

Okay that's partly true but that division wasn't so good to prevent him from winning more than 2 games in 2015, 5 games in 2016, and 1-4 this team and that's only because the team on the other side was 0-4 as well so i guess somebody had to win right? My point is Phillip Rivers is overrated and not this superstar qb as some are claiming on here.
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#19

(10-12-2017, 08:30 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: can you name some basic throws Blake has missed this season because i'm asking you seriously base on i don't recall that being the case except for the crossing pattern to lee in the titans game. I thought his mechanics has been fine so far and if you disagree let me know because maybe i'm missing something here.

The game planning by the Jags coaching staff tells me exactly how Blake is performing. They do not want him to pass the ball. 

If you have a girlfriend who can't cook, you don't tell her she is a crappy cook. You just insist on going out to eat a lot.
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#20

It honestly depends on how the FO evaluates everybody involved. You sign a Brees or Rivers to get one or two more good years from them, and maybe make a run at the Super Bowl with a great running game and a great defense while you draft your guy of the future and develop him.

You sign Cousins or Garoppolo because you believe they ARE the future, and so you shell out the big bucks.

Either approach can work. Just depends on whether you believe there's a guy in the draft who'll outplay Cousins and/or Garoppolo.
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