(10-24-2017, 04:59 PM)FreeAgent01 Wrote:

(10-24-2017, 12:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I forgot about RG3 tearing his MCL, but don't you think all the running he did, might've contributed to the injury?

I could argue that those QB's might've had the talent to be NFL QB's, but Petrino's system didn't prepare them for the NFL and put them at a huge disadvantage. There's two sides to every coin. Ryan Mallett was drafted purely on his arm talent, but the guy was a head case. I could draw a lot of comparisons to him and Ryan Leaf, except Mallett wasn't quite as bad. 

Carson Wentz is just a special player. As I said in another post, when he entered the draft, I had the highest grade on him that I'd given a QB since Andrew Luck. He just has that "it" factor. Although he is having an outstanding year, I will still reserve judgement on him, at least until after his first contract is completed, but so far, he appears to be a stud. Heath Schuler and Peyton Manning are two completely different prospects from Jackson. They have totally different skill sets and were asked to do totally different things than Jackson is doing. Both were pure drop back passers, who only ran when they were flushed from the pocket, so I don't get the comparison to Jackson. It's not so "mind bottling." Just let you mind out of that bottle. 

Ryan Mallett played for Bill Belichick.  Bill Belichick can't coach up a quarterback either?  Or is your stance really that Petrino damaged him so badly he became irrepairable to even Belichick?

No, Jackson isn't asked to do totally different things than Manning or Shuler were in the pass game.  They are very similar.  What you can't separate is the difference between rushing attacks and passing attacks.  When Louisville runs, they run the read/option and Jackson runs for two thirds of Louisville's designed rushes.  When they call a pass he drops back and passes normally like any pure, drop back, pocket quarterback.  He throws to a full route tree with pro concepts and pro reads.  He throws the ball more than Mason Rudolph does.  Mason Rudolph has very few pro concepts in his game and has one of the best college deep threats off all time in Washington.  His rushes aren't predominantly scrambling otherwise the dude would be attempting 60 passes per game average.  If an NFL head coach doean't want him running very often - guess what?  He doesn't have to call designed quarterback runs.

Just a question for you.  Using your logic, what successful starting quarterback has Gundy produced?  I do remember him when he was a man, and also 40, when he defended one of his underwhelming quarterbacks.

You and I will never agree on Jackson and I don't see this changing at all. I have Rudolph, Rosen, Mayfield and Finley a top my QB list right now and as much as I've seen this season, I don't see this changing much. Jackson does not impress me other than his athletic ability and that isn't enough to make me wanna spend a first round draft pick on him. It's just my opinion and you're entitled to yours. 

As for Gundy, I never claimed that he coached any NFL QB's that turned out any good.

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