The "Ike's Island featured cornerback" this week is Jalen Ramsey.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...b-rankings

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Have to agree. Ramsey is good.

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Wish his mouth didn't rival his talent. He needs to grow up, but he definitely has the potential to be the best CB in the league

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Wish his mouth didn't rival his talent. He needs to grow up, but he definitely has the potential to be the best CB in the league

 

Someday he will learn to shut up and just play. Not sure about being the best CB in a league with elite veterans, but he will be mentioned with those guys a lot in a couple years.

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Wish his mouth didn't rival his talent. He needs to grow up, but he definitely has the potential to be the best CB in the league

 

  I know some will disagree with me as in the case of the Dante Fowler Jr./  Vic Beasley discussion in another thread,  which I'm more than comfortable with.   But much like with Fowler as a front seven player,  I think Jalen Ramsey would potentially benefit greatly if the Jaguars had a veteran highly accomplished mentor at CB.   Players often relate better to their peers than to coaches. 

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I know some will disagree with me as in the case of the Dante Fowler Jr./ Vic Beasley discussion in another thread,  which I'm more than comfortable with. But much like with Fowler as a front seven player, I think Jalen Ramsey would potentially benefit greatly if the Jaguars had a veteran highly accomplished mentor at CB. Players often relate better to their peers than to coaches. 

 

So you think it is not good enough to have Prince Amukamara, who although not "highly accomplished" has had a good career when healthy, on the other side?

 

The last sentence is painful because right now we just fired a coach players were not listening to. Our new coaching staff will certainly include defensive assistants, who should help Ramsey next season.

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So you think it is not good enough to have Prince Amukamara, who although not "highly accomplished" has had a good career when healthy, on the other side?

 

The last sentence is painful because right now we just fired a coach players were not listening to. Our new coaching staff will certainly include defensive assistants, who should help Ramsey next season.

 

  Prince Amukamara probably is helpful for Jalen Ramsey.   Yet,  I'm thinking more along the lines of a current NFL CB like what Rashean Mathis,  Charles Tillman, and Ike Taylor provided when they were still in the NFL in their 30s.   A player who the vast majority of people close to a team's situation recognize for their career accomplishments as one of the best players in the NFL and who brings excellent intangibles to the table.   

 

  Regardless what changes the Jaguars make to their coaching staff next season,   trying to provide the team's top 5 picks in recent seasons with the best possible chance to reach their potential seems like something that should be a priority. 

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Prince Amukamara probably is helpful for Jalen Ramsey.   Yet,  I'm thinking more along the lines of a current NFL CB like what Rashean Mathis,  Charles Tillman, and Ike Taylor provided when they were still in the NFL in their 30s.   A player who the vast majority of people close to a team's situation recognize for their career accomplishments as one of the best players in the NFL and who brings excellent intangibles to the table.   

 

Regardless what changes the Jaguars make to their coaching staff next season, trying to provide the team's top 5 picks in recent seasons with the best possible chance to reach their potential seems like something that should be a priority. 

 

One thing I learned this year is new players coming from successful teams expect too much and don't like their coaches because they are not used to losing. Ramsey is one of them. New coaches will go a long way for his benefit,

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One thing I learned this year is new players coming from successful teams expect too much and don't like their coaches because they are not used to losing. Ramsey is one of them. New coaches will go a long way for his benefit,

 

  One thing that might be hurting the Jaguars is the team doesn't have Assistants on the Defensive Side of the ball that have major accomplishments as coaches on the NFL level, in the coaching positions they currently are in.   This combined with Gus Bradley's W-L record with the Jaguars could contribute to some of the players not buying in to what the coaches as conveying as much that's needed for the Jaguars to have more success.    IMO,  this can be a compounded problem when there's not enough veteran leadership.

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One thing that might be hurting the Jaguars is the team doesn't have Assistants on the Defensive Side of the ball that have major accomplishments as coaches on the NFL level, in the coaching positions they currently are in.   This combined with Gus Bradley's W-L record with the Jaguars could contribute to some of the players not buying in to what the coaches as conveying as much that's needed for the Jaguars to have more success. IMO,  this can be a compounded problem when there's not enough veteran leadership.

 

If only we could have hired Jim Schwartz . . .

 

Then again I don't know where Philly's defense ranks in any category.

 

Hopefully when other jobs are vacated in January, we can hire some outsiders with longer resumes.

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If only we could have hired Jim Schwartz . . .

 

Then again I don't know where Philly's defense ranks in any category.

 

Hopefully when other jobs are vacated in January, we can hire some outsiders with longer resumes.

 

  Like we discussed the other day in another thread,  the Jaguars probably had an uphill battle to land Jim Schwartz if that's the direction they wanted to go in.  Schwartz is a good example though of a coach who has had plenty of NFL success in his current role.  He would likely have commanded respect from at least most of the Jaguars Defensive players. 

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What do you think (besides trash talking) Ramsey's biggest weaknesses in games are?

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What do you think (besides trash talking) Ramsey's biggest weaknesses in games are?

 

  In fairness,  I probably have seen 50 to 60 % of Jalen Ramsey's plays this season,  hence most people reading this can provide you with greater insight. 

 

  In the games and parts of Jaguars games I've seen,  he's shown a great amount of promise.   The one thing that hasn't occurred yet is a takeaway or directly caused takeaway.    The closest thing which was just as good was the pass defensed in Chicago that secured the victory for Jacksonville.   As Ramsey gains more experienced and more balls are thrown his way ( in terms of overall career ongoing total ),   the interceptions should come,  though his overall total might not be high because opposing Offense's won't challenge him much.  

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Jalen Ramsey is a very talented player and will only get better.

 

The trash talking is something I just ignore.. he's a kid and will grow out of it.

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80% of what I talk about is nonesense.. the other 25% is made up statistics...


 

Wish his mouth didn't rival his talent. He needs to grow up, but he definitely has the potential to be the best CB in the league

 

completely disagree... this team needs what he has... hopefully bradley doesn't ruin him

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completely disagree... this team needs what he has... hopefully bradley doesn't ruin him

He wont be here long enough to do that

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He wont be here long enough to do that

 

hope you are right, but I'm afraid him lasting just the rest of the season might be all it takes to ruin him

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completely disagree... this team needs what he has... hopefully bradley doesn't ruin him

The team needs his swagger and confidence for sure.  Bradley won't ruin him.  That would require some level of coaching and discipline. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

In fairness,  I probably have seen 50 to 60 % of Jalen Ramsey's plays this season, hence most people reading this can provide you with greater insight. 

 

In the games and parts of Jaguars games I've seen, he's shown a great amount of promise. The one thing that hasn't occurred yet is a takeaway or directly caused takeaway. The closest thing which was just as good was the pass defensed in Chicago that secured the victory for Jacksonville. As Ramsey gains more experienced and more balls are thrown his way (in terms of overall career ongoing total), the interceptions should come, though his overall total might not be high because opposing offense's won't challenge him much.  

 

That play was an example of stats being misleading. So what if that pass was not intercepted? It was fourth down. Other posters complained because they like to see "splashy" plays, but he did his job.

 

Ike Taylor's comment about Jalen Ramsey's performance against Amari Cooper makes me wonder if Derek Carr was throwing away from him when he picked on Prince Amukamara all day.

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Wish his mouth didn't rival his talent. He needs to grow up, but he definitely has the potential to be the best CB in the league

Some of the best to ever play that position have been the biggest trash talkers.  If you can back it up, keep talking.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.