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Baker Mayfield

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(12-13-2017, 11:50 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(12-13-2017, 11:08 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: If we are content to sit back and keep Bortles, I think I'm going to have to take some time away from football. This is the best team we've ever had, but the weak link is still QB. Bortles will never have a ceiling any higher than serviceable and we all know how low his floor can go. Personally, I see this as a very deep first round QB class and we could possibly find an improvement in round 2 as well. Do I wanna have to draft another QB? No, but I believe it's necessary. If we pass up a QB from this class and Bortles reverts to his 2016 form, we're screwed for years to come. Other than improvements on the O-Line and a starting TE, I see no other glaring needs. It would be nice to add another receiver and depth at LB and CB, but those aren't "must haves." We could realistically find the pieces in this draft to form a dynasty for years to come, but we have to be willing to take a risk and draft a QB. If we don't, I believe all the money we spent on defense, will be for nothing, if the ultimate goal is a Superbowl.

I am with you. But I don't see them moving up from more than likely anywhere between the 26th - 32nd position in the first round to position themselves inside the top 5 to land Mayfield. You would have to give up a TON to get him and that's a HUGE risk this team doesn't really have to take right now because of the ground game, because of the defense. 

I think they could address the position not once but twice next year. Get yourself a veteran QB that you know for a fact is better than Henne with recent starting experience. And then go after another QB prospect towards the bottom of RD2 or RD3 or maybe consider moving up from RD3 with your RD2 selection to come up early on RD2 and get your coveted passer while you still can. 

That's a low risk/high reward decision IMHO. We could use more depth in the offensive line just based on the injuries this year alone we should be looking to beef it up with quality talent. Which a lot of successful teams tend to do when they're consistently winning and picking late anyways. I am going to hold out and see what Bortles does though. Three games left to really shine like he's done the last two weeks. And then he's going to be leading a play off team for the first time in his career. If the team wins because of his play. Great. If the team loses because of his play. Well, we know what we should do.

I just don't see next year's QB class being that good. In fact, from what I've seen this season, I'm really not interested at all in the QB's projected at the top of the 2019 draft, unless some small school QB comes out of nowhere to rise up the draft boards ala Carson Wentz. As far as getting a QB this year outside of the first round, the only one I'd have confidence that might turn into something good would be Riley Ferguson and he's far from perfect. If we would miss out on him, I don't really see the point in wasting a draft pick on a QB in rounds 3-7. The free agent QB class isn't that good either. Kirk Cousins is way too expensive and I'm positive Drew Brees re-signs with New Orleans and Alex Smith is tagged by Kansas City. As for the rest of the free agent class, I don't see a significant upgrade over Bortles. It's easy to sit back and take the easy, most cost effective way, but that limits growth. Kansas City traded all the way up from #27 to #10 last season and didn't give up that much at all. I'm not saying we have to trade into the top 5. Like I said, I'd be happy with Rosen, Mayfield or Rudolph. If we traded into the top 8-10, I believe we could still make a significant upgrade at the QB position while still being able to add a quality O-Lineman or two and a TE.
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Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-10-2017, 01:33 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by JackCity - 12-10-2017, 01:38 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-10-2017, 02:40 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Upper - 12-10-2017, 08:17 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by jaglou53 - 12-10-2017, 12:46 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-10-2017, 03:12 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by imtheblkranger - 12-10-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-10-2017, 03:19 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Kane - 12-11-2017, 12:05 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-11-2017, 03:53 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by HURRICANE!!! - 12-11-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by scottyg - 12-12-2017, 03:32 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by HURRICANE!!! - 12-13-2017, 11:18 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-13-2017, 02:34 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Caldrac - 12-13-2017, 08:09 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-13-2017, 11:08 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Caldrac - 12-13-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-13-2017, 02:52 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Dumptruck - 12-13-2017, 03:00 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Kane - 12-14-2017, 12:18 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-19-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Kane - 12-19-2017, 12:42 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Dumptruck - 12-19-2017, 09:34 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by imtheblkranger - 01-01-2018, 07:53 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by HURRICANE!!! - 01-02-2018, 04:41 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Jagsfan32277 - 01-01-2018, 09:00 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Eye of the Storm - 01-01-2018, 09:24 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Achilles - 01-01-2018, 09:29 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by homebiscuit - 01-01-2018, 10:00 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by imtheblkranger - 01-01-2018, 10:06 PM
Eye of the Storm - by Eye of the Storm - 01-01-2018, 10:42 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Dumptruck - 01-02-2018, 09:15 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Jagsfan32277 - 01-02-2018, 09:42 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by jaglou53 - 01-02-2018, 10:41 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by JagNGeorgia - 01-02-2018, 11:45 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by imtheblkranger - 01-02-2018, 12:39 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Dumptruck - 01-02-2018, 02:48 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 01-02-2018, 03:09 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by jaglou53 - 01-02-2018, 04:11 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Dumptruck - 01-02-2018, 04:30 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 01-02-2018, 05:37 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by JackCity - 01-02-2018, 05:55 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Jagsfan32277 - 01-02-2018, 06:03 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Upper - 01-03-2018, 05:27 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 01-03-2018, 07:23 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by The Real Marty - 01-03-2018, 07:29 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Kane - 01-03-2018, 10:46 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by jags_r_bake - 01-03-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by jaglou53 - 01-03-2018, 04:08 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 01-24-2018, 11:27 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Bullseye - 01-24-2018, 11:34 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Andy G - 01-27-2018, 11:01 AM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 01-27-2018, 12:16 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by jaglou53 - 01-27-2018, 12:20 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by I am Yoda - 01-28-2018, 09:11 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by Upper - 01-28-2018, 09:37 PM
RE: Baker Mayfield - by TheO-LineMatters - 01-29-2018, 01:14 AM



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