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TheO-LineMatters 7 round Mock Draft

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(This post was last modified: 01-28-2018, 12:33 PM by TheO-LineMatters.)

Washington does not tag Kirk Cousins allowing him to be an UFA




Buffalo cuts Tyrod Taylor





Denver signs Kirk Cousins





Drew Brees re-signs with New Orleans





Tampa Bay signs Case Keenum





Minnesota re-signs Teddy Bridgewater





Minnesota signs Tyrod Taylor





Arizona sends a 3rd round pick to the New York Giants for QB Eli Manning





Buffalo Bills send a 1st round 2nd and 3rd round (#55 and #94 overall picks) to Kansas City for QB Alex Smith and the Chiefs 2nd round pick (#54 overall) and 3rd round pick (#86 overall.)

** denotes underclassman 


Round 1

1. Cleveland- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State**
2. New York Giants- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA**
3. Indianapolis- Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
4. Cleveland (Via Houston)- Sam Darnold, QB, USC**
5. Denver- Minkah Fitzpatrick, S/CB, Alabama**
6. New York Jets- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
7. Tampa Bay- Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA
8. Chicago- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama**
9. San Francisco- Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame**
10. Oakland- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia**
11. Miami- Derwin James, S, Florida State**
12. Cincinnati- Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
13. Washington- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming**
14. Green Bay- Joshua Jackson, CB, Iowa**
15. Arizona- Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State**
16. Baltimore- Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College
17. L.A. Chargers- Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma**
18. Seattle- Connor Williams, OT, Texas**
19. Dallas- Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU**
20. Detroit- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech**
21. Buffalo- Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama**
22. Kansas City (Via Buffalo Via Kansas City)- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
23. L.A. Rams- Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn**
24. Carolina- James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
25. Tennessee- Arden Key, DE/OLB, LSU**
26. Atlanta- Billy Price, OG/C, Ohio State
27. New Orleans- Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
28. Pittsburgh- Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama**
29. Jacksonville- Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
30. Minnesota- Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
31. Philadelphia- Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA**
32. New England- Rasheem Green, DE, USC**


Round 2

33. Cleveland- Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford**
34. New York Giants- Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
35. Cleveland (Via Houston)- Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado**
36. Indianapolis- Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
37. New York Jets- Mason Cole, OT/OG/C, Michigan
38. Tampa Bay- Mike Hughes, CB, UCF**
39. Chicago- Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma**
40. Denver- Derrius Guice, RB, LSU**
41. Oakland- Brian O’Neill, OT, Pitt**
42. Miami- Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP
43. New England (Via San Francisco)- Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas**
44. Washington- Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
45. Green Bay- Justin Reid, S, Stanford**
46. Cincinnati- Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas
47. Arizona- Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville**
48. L.A. Chargers- Armani Watts, S, Texas A&M
49. New York Jets (Via Seattle)- Tavarus McFadden, CB, Florida State**
50. Dallas- Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
51. Detroit- Duke Ejiofor, DE, Wake Forest
52. Baltimore- Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M**
53. Buffalo- Jerome Baker, LB, Ohio State**
54. Buffalo (Via Kansas City)- Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State**
55. Kansas City (Via Buffalo Via L.A. Rams)- Marcus Allen, S, Penn State
56. Carolina- Isaiah Wynn, OG/OT, Georgia
57. Tennessee- Tavon Bryan, DE, Florida**
58. Atlanta- DeShon Elliott, S, Texas**  
59. San Francisco (Via New Orleans)- Auden Tate, WR, Florida State**
60. Pittsburgh- Hercules Mata’afa, OLB, Washington State**
61. Jacksonville- Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina**
62. Minnesota- Uchenna Nwosu, LB, USC
63. Cleveland (Via Philadelphia)- Jordan Lasley, WR, UCLA**
64. New England- Braden Smith, OG/OT, Auburn


Round 3

65. Cleveland- Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State**
66. New York Giants- Marcell Frazier, DE, Missouri
67. Indianapolis- Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State
68. Houston- Chukwuma Okorofar, OT, Western Michigan
69. Tampa Bay- Ronald Jones II, RB, USC**
70. San Francisco (Via Chicago)- Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville**
71. Denver- Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State
72. New York Jets- Rashaad Penny, RB, SDSU
73. Miami- Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State
74. San Francisco- Shaquem Griffin, LEO/OLB, UCF
75. Oakland- Donte Jackson, CB, LSU**
76. Green Bay- Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas**
77. Cincinnati- Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State
78. Washington- Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
79. New York Giants (Via Arizona)- Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
80. Houston (Via Seattle)- Nick Nelson, CB, Wisconsin**
81. Dallas- Duke Dawson, CB, Florida
82. Detroit- Mark Walton, RB, Miami (Fla.)**
83. Baltimore- Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin
84. L.A. Chargers- Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky
85. Carolina (Via Buffalo)- Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford**
86. Buffalo (Via Kansas City)- Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame**
87. L.A. Rams- Will Clapp, C/OG, LSU**
88. Carolina- Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia**
89. Tennessee- Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah
90. Atlanta- Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida
91. New Orleans- Holton Hill, CB, Texas**  
92. Pittsburgh- B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State
93. Jacksonville- Austin Corbett, OG/OT, Nevada
94. Minnesota- Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana**
95. Kansas City (Via Buffalo Via Philadelphia)- Anthony Avertt, CB, Alabama
96. New England- Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech


Round 4

97. Cleveland- Quin Blanding, S, Virginia
98. New York Giants- James Daniels, C, Iowa**
99. Houston- Sean Welsh, OG/C, Iowa
100. Indianapolis- Jeff Holland, OLB, Auburn**
101. Chicago- Kevin Toliver, CB, LSU**
102. Denver- Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State**
103. New York Jets- Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma
104. Tampa Bay- Jordan Whitehead, S, Pittsburgh**
105. Denver (Via San Francisco)- Tyrone Crowder, OG, Clemson
107. Oakland- Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn**
108. Miami- R.J. McIntosh, DT, Miami**
109. Cincinnati- Darius Leonard, LB, South Carolina State
110. Washington- Will Richardson, OT, North Carolina State**
111. Green Bay- Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
112. Chicago (Via Arizona)- Da’Shawn Hand, DE, Alabama
113. Dallas- Tim Settle Jr., DT, Virginia Tech**
114. Detroit- Bradley Bozeman, C/OG, Alabama
115. Baltimore- D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
116. L.A. Chargers- Folorunso Fatukasi, DT, UConn.
117. Seattle- Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
118. Buffalo- Darius Phillips, CB, Western Michigan
119. Kansas City- Mike McCray, ILB, Michigan
120. L.A. Rams- Lorenzo Carter, LB, Georgia
121. Cleveland (Via Carolina)- Jaylen Samuels, FB/TE, North Carolina State
122. Tennessee- K.J. Malone, OG, LSU
123. Atlanta- D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland**
124. New Orleans- Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
125. San Francisco (Via Pittsburgh)- Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia  
126. Jacksonville- Micah Kiser, LB, Virginia
127. Philadelphia (Via Minnesota)- Deontay Burnett, WR, USC**
128. Miami (Via Philadelphia)- Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
129. Philadelphia (Via New England)- Christian Sam, LB, Arizona State**

Round 5

129. Cleveland- Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T  
130. New York Giants- J.C. Jackson, CB, Maryland**
131. Indianapolis- Sam Jones, OG, ASU**
132. Seattle (Via Houston)- Christopher Herndon IV, TE, Miami (Fla.)
133. Denver- Poona Ford, DT, Texas
134. San Francisco (Via New York Jets)- Dorian O’ Daniel, LB, Clemson
135. Tampa Bay- Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
136. Chicago- Marquis Haynes, OLB, Mississippi
137. Seattle (Via Oakland)- Kyzir White, S, West Virginia
138. New Orleans (Via Miami)- Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State
139. Pittsburgh (Via San Francisco)- Shaun Dion Hamilton, ILB, Alabama
140. Washington- Jessie Bates lll, S, Wake Forest**
141. Green Bay- Andrew Brown, DE/DT, Virginia  
142. Cincinnati- Deon Cain, WR, Clemson**
143. Arizona- Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State
144. Detroit- Adam Breneman, TE, UMass.
145. Baltimore- Coleman Shelton, C/OG, Washington
146. L.A. Chargers- Tegray Scales, LB, Indiana
147. Philadelphia (Via Seattle)- Cody O’Connell, OG, Washington State
148. New York Jets (Via Dallas)- Tony Adams, OG, N.C. State
149. Buffalo- Josh Adams, RB, Notre Dame**
150. Cleveland (Via Kansas City)- Jalen Davis, CB, Utah State
151. L.A. Rams- Tre’Quan Smith, WR, UCF
152. Carolina- Justin Lawler, DE, SMU  
153. Tennessee- Christian Campbell, CB, Penn State
154. Denver (Via Atlanta)- Keke Coutee, WR, Texas Tech**
155. New Orleans- Chase Litton, QB, Marshall**
156. Pittsburgh- J’Mon Moore, WR, Missouri
157. Buffalo (Via Jacksonville)- Scott Quessenberry, C/OG, UCLA
158. Minnesota- Jeremy Reaves, S, South Alabama
159. Philadelphia- Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State
160. New England- Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia


Round 6   

161. Cleveland- Skai Moore, LB, South Carolina
162. New York Giants- Maea Teuhema, OG, Southeast Louisiana**
163. Houston- Ja’Von Rolland-Jones, OLB, Arkansas State
164. Indianapolis- Kameron Kelly, CB, San Diego State
165. New York Jets- Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
166. Tampa Bay- Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida**
167. Chicago- K.C. McDermott, OG/OT, Miami (Fla)
168. Denver- Jordan Atkins, TE, UCF**
169. Miami- Toby Weathersby, OT, LSU**  
170. San Francisco- Marcell Harris, S, Florida**
171. Oakland- Dante Pettis, WR/KR, Washington
172. Green Bay- Daurice Fountain, WR, Northern Iowa  
173. Cincinnati- Luke Falk, QB, Washington State
174. Washington- Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State**
175. New Orleans (Via Arizona)- Joe Ostman, DE, Central Michigan
176. Baltimore- Breeleand Speaks, DE, Mississippi**
177. L.A. Chargers- Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
178. Oakland (Via Seattle)- Mat Boesen, DE, TCU
179. Dallas- James Hearns, DE, Louisville
180. L.A. Rams (Via Detroit)- Cole Madison, OT, Washington State
181. L.A. Rams (Via Buffalo)- Dalton Schultz, TE, Stanford**
182. Kansas City- Garrett Dooley, OLB, Wisconsin
183. L.A. Rams- P.J. Hall, DT, Sam Houston State
184. Carolina- Damon Webb, S, Ohio State
185. Tennessee- Godwin Igwebuike, S, Northwestern
186. Atlanta- JoJo Wicker, DE, Arizona State**
187. New Orleans- Secdrick Cooper, S, La. Tech
188. Tampa Bay (Via Pittsburgh)- Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
189. Jacksonville- Javon Wims, WR, Georgia
190. Minnesota- Jeromy Irwin, OT, Colorado
191. Philadelphia- D’Montre Wade, CB, Murray State
192. New England- Timon Parris, OT, Stony Brook


Round 7

193. Cleveland- Zach Crabtree, OT, Oklahoma State
194. Pittsburgh (Via New York Giants)- Geron Christian, OT, Louisville**
195. Indianapolis- Josh Fatu, DT, USC
196. Houston- Tyler Conklin, TE, Central Michigan
197. Miami (Via Tampa Bay)- Frank Ginda, LB, San Jose State**
198. Chicago- Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State  
199. Denver- M.J. Stewart, CB, North Carolina
200. Seattle (Via New York Jets)- Bilal Nichols, DT, Delaware
201. San Francisco- Justin Crawford, RB, West Virginia**
202. Oakland- Isaac Yiadom, S, Boston College
203. Miami- DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
204. Jacksonville (Via Cincinnati)- David Bright, OG/OT, Stanford  
205. Washington- Taylor Hearn, OG, Clemson**
206. Green Bay- Jack Cichy, ILB, Wisconsin
207. Arizona- Fred Warner, LB, BYU
208. Buffalo (Via L.A. Chargers)- Ike Boettger, OT, Iowa
209. New York Jets (Via Seattle)- Jaleel Scott, WR, New Mexico State
210. Green Bay (Via Dallas)- Riley Ferguson, QB, Memphis
211. Detroit- Bruce Hector, DT, South Florida
212. Arizona (Via Baltimore)- Jamil Demby, OT, Maine
213. Green Bay (Via Buffalo)- Na’Ty Rodgers, OT, Houston
214. San Francisco (Via Kansas City)- Davin Bellamy, LB, Georgia
215. Washington (Via L.A. Rams)- Greg Gilmore, DT, LSU
216. Carolina- Durham Smythe, TE, Notre Dame
217. Kansas City (Via Tennessee)- Kyle Bosch, OG, West Virginia
218. Atlanta- Danny Johnson, CB, Southern
219. New Orleans- Justin Jones, DT, N.C. State
220. Pittsburgh- Kamryn Pettway, RB, Auburn**
221. Jacksonville- Terrell Edmunds, S, Virginia Tech**
222. Seattle (Via Minnesota)- Brian Allen, C/OG, Michigan State
223. Philadelphia- Kendrick Norton, DT, Miami**
224. Cincinnati (Via New England)- Brendan Mahon, OG, Penn State








Jaguars picks: 

1. Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State: In my opinion, the best QB in this class. He's big, he moves well. He has tremendous accuracy and touch. He reads defenses well and spreads the ball out to multiple receivers. He will need to work on taking the ball directly from Center, but that is something most QB's in this class will have to learn. He should give Bortles real competition by midway through the season. 

2. Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina: A big TE who is one of the better blockers in this class, but he also has very good hands and the ability to get deep. He will give the Jags an added dimension to the offense that they haven't had in a long time. 

3. Austin Corbett, OG/OT, Nevada: Corbett is one of the most highly ranked interior blockers in the draft. He played LT at Nevada, but plays much better inside. During the Senior Bowl week, he struggled some when on the edge, but once kicked inside, he drew praise from coaches and analyst. He looks like a natural OG, displaying very good run blocking as well as pass protection skills. He did not allow a sack in 2017, despite the Wolfpack attempting a league high in pass attempts. Has 36 straight starts. I believe he could settle right in at LG.

4. Micah Kiser, LB, Virginia: Kiser is a highly productive linebacker. He led the ACC in tackles 3 straight years and racked up 145 this past season. He shows the versatility to play inside or outside as he also displays nice pass rush skills, accumulating 5 sacks this season and is pretty good in coverage as well with 4 pass breakups. He could take over for Poz, and allow us to disguise some schemes by rotating him and Myles Jack at MLB and SSLB.

6. Javon Wims, WR, Georgia: A 6'4" big, rangey WR who was pretty much the Bulldogs only receiving threat this past season. He averaged 16 yards a reception in 2017 and 720 yards receiving despite being on a predominately run first team with a freshman starting QB. He is a good route runner, with very good hands and excellent body control. Had he not gotten injured late in the NCAA Championship game, the outcome could've been different. He has fully recovered now and is preparing for the draft. I believe he could give the Jags a legit redzone threat for the Jags, along with a new TE. 

7. David Bright, OG/OT, Stanford: A versatile O-Lineman who played every position on the offensive line except Center. He's a very good run blocker and a solid pass protector as well. Gathered All Pac-12 honors this past season and although he can OT, he is much better suited to kick inside to OG, where he looks like a natural. He did not allow a sack in 2017 and was named All Pac-12 second team. I believe he could beat out A.J. Cann for the starting RG job. 

7. Terrell Edmunds, S, Virginia Tech: Big Free Safety prospect with range, athleticism and instincts. He is the brother of probable first round linebacker Tremaine Edmunds. He played 10 games this past season with 59 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks and 2 interceptions. He also had 4 pass breakups and 6 passes defended. He may go a little higher than this, but if he's there, I think he'd be a solid selection to push Gipson at the Free Safety spot. If nothing else, he gives us solid depth where it's needed.
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Pretty good mock draft all things considered. Put a lot of thought into it.

Personally hate the Jaguars draft here. Lots of meh.

Few glaring mistakes :

Dante Pettis - 6th round? He's far more likely to be in the second or third. Particularly after he blows up the combine.

DJ Moore - Likewise, probably a 2nd round pick.

Jeremy Reaves - 3/4

Fred Warner is a huge riser. Will go much higher than 7th.

Gallup- will easily go in first 3 rounds.

Andrew Brown - likewise.

James Daniels - might be the 2nd center off the board if not the first
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Nice job on this draft. I like the pick of Hurst in the 2nd and Corbett in the 3rd. Didn't know anything about Corbett, but after some research he looks like an extremely versatile lineman who could start at guard but move to tackle if necessary. I love how you allowed Rudolph to fall to the Jaguars since he's your favorite quarterback. Opinions on him are all over the map, but I like the pick and prefer him to Jackson due to his size. He will need some time to develop, but I want to see what Bortles can do next season with a much better group of receivers.

The Jags should free up some cap room by cutting Nortmann, Hurns and Ivory and hopefully re-doing the contracts of Poz and Lewis. I would love to see them go after one of the free agent offensive linemen- preferably Pugh or Richberg since the Coughlin connection would give us an advantage. Despite having a good year statistically, I'm not totally confident about this group. They were inconsistent at times and the depth is not great. Even with adding Corbett in the 3rd round and Bright in the 7th, what happens if Robinson or Parnell go down for a while? Pugh may not be the most powerful blocker in the league, but he is very versatile and can fit into any scheme. Due to his injury, we might even get a slight discount and he is still pretty young.

Again, great job on this draft!
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(01-28-2018, 12:52 PM)JackCity Wrote: Pretty good mock draft all things considered. Put a lot of thought into it.

Personally hate the Jaguars draft here. Lots of meh.

Few glaring mistakes :

Dante Pettis - 6th round? He's far more likely to be in the second or third. Particularly after he blows up the combine.  

DJ Moore - Likewise, probably a 2nd round pick.

Jeremy Reaves - 3/4  

Fred Warner is a huge riser. Will go much higher than 7th.

Gallup- will easily go in first 3 rounds.

Andrew Brown - likewise.

James Daniels - might be the 2nd center off the board if not the first

Pettis is not a #1 receiver. When I saw him, he was just kind of meh. Nothing special. A good Combine might elevate him to the 4th, but the guys with potential to be a #1 receiver will go ahead of him. 

Moore could go higher. His speed will determine where he is placed. 

Reaves could very well go higher as well. I had a difficult time placing him. I just think it speaks to the overall quality of the draft in general. 

Gallup, I don't see going any higher. He's productive, but from what I've read, no one expects him to run over a 4.55. They say he lacks speed and athleticism. He's just one of those overachieving, hard workers. We shall see. Things will most certainly change after free agency and the Combine. It always does. If he runs faster than expected, he'll rise. If not, there is just too many quality WR's who entered the draft early and pushed him down the board. He reminds me of Jarvis Landry. More of a #2 receiver.

Brown could go higher as well. He's a true 3-4 DE and that is where his value is, so he's pigeon holed a bit. Some team might take him as a 3 technique, but there are just so many good DT's in this draft already. 

For me, Daniels is definitely the 3rd or 4th best Center in the draft behind Price and Ragnow. To me, Daniels and Clapp are basically neck and neck. I have Mason Cole being drafted as an OT.
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(01-28-2018, 03:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(01-28-2018, 12:52 PM)JackCity Wrote: Pretty good mock draft all things considered. Put a lot of thought into it.

Personally hate the Jaguars draft here. Lots of meh.

Few glaring mistakes :

Dante Pettis - 6th round? He's far more likely to be in the second or third. Particularly after he blows up the combine.  

DJ Moore - Likewise, probably a 2nd round pick.

Jeremy Reaves - 3/4  

Fred Warner is a huge riser. Will go much higher than 7th.

Gallup- will easily go in first 3 rounds.

Andrew Brown - likewise.

James Daniels - might be the 2nd center off the board if not the first

Pettis is not a #1 receiver. When I saw him, he was just kind of meh. Nothing special. A good Combine might elevate him to the 4th, but the guys with potential to be a #1 receiver will go ahead of him. 

Moore could go higher. His speed will determine where he is placed. 

Reaves could very well go higher as well. I had a difficult time placing him. I just think it speaks to the overall quality of the draft in general. 

Gallup, I don't see going any higher. He's productive, but from what I've read, no one expects him to run over a 4.55. They say he lacks speed and athleticism. He's just one of those overachieving, hard workers. We shall see. Things will most certainly change after free agency and the Combine. It always does. If he runs faster than expected, he'll rise. If not, there is just too many quality WR's who entered the draft early and pushed him down the board. He reminds me of Jarvis Landry. More of a #2 receiver.

Brown could go higher as well. He's a true 3-4 DE and that is where his value is, so he's pigeon holed a bit. Some team might take him as a 3 technique, but there are just so many good DT's in this draft already. 

For me, Daniels is definitely the 3rd or 4th best Center in the draft behind Price and Ragnow. To me, Daniels and Clapp are basically neck and neck. I have Mason Cole being drafted as an OT.

Pettis is a historically good returner. Freak athlete and was pretty productive. Really strong hands and can go up and get it. Teams are gonna be all over him with his upside.  

Moore is one of the best receivers in the class.  

Brown is seen as a 3 tech by most teams. Was badly used two gapping in college.  Insane first step (partly because he snap jumps). 

Yeah don't mind Daniels being behind Price or Ragnow. 

Only minor things, most of the draft looks legit.
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(01-28-2018, 01:29 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Nice job on this draft. I like the pick of Hurst in the 2nd and Corbett in the 3rd. Didn't know anything about Corbett,  but after some research he looks like an extremely versatile lineman who could start at guard but move to tackle if necessary. I love how you allowed Rudolph to fall to the Jaguars since he's your favorite quarterback. Opinions on him are all over the map, but I like the pick and prefer him to Jackson due to his size. He will need some time to develop, but I want to see what Bortles can do next season with a much better group of receivers.

The Jags should free up some cap room by cutting Nortmann,  Hurns and Ivory and hopefully re-doing the contracts of Poz and Lewis. I would love to see them go after one of the free agent offensive linemen- preferably Pugh or Richberg since the Coughlin connection would give us an advantage. Despite having a good year statistically, I'm not totally confident about this group. They were inconsistent at times and the depth is not great. Even with adding Corbett in the 3rd round and Bright in the 7th, what happens if Robinson or Parnell go down for a while? Pugh may not be the most powerful blocker in the league, but he is very versatile and can fit into any scheme. Due to his injury, we might even get a slight discount and he is still pretty young.

Again, great job on this draft!

I didn't really allow Rudolph to fall to us. In fact, this is the first mock I've made where he did fall to us. When Sam Darnold decided to enter the draft and Ben Roethlisberger announced he will be back in 2018, it really helped our case. Both of those were unexpected to me. Had either one not happened, he wouldn't have made it to our pick. 

I don't wanna cut Hurns at all. He's our most dependable receiver he just needs to stay healthy. Having him with our two young guys (Westbrook and Cole), who will be more experienced and a new, big target in Wims, gives us a nice core. Hurns just needs to keep from getting hurt. I believe Poz and Lewis will both be gone. 

I would've loved to add a swing tackle prospect as well, but we just didn't have enough picks. I believe we will bring in a couple UDFA OT's to compete for that position, as well as bringing in a RB or two as depth behind Fournette and Grant. I also based my draft upon us re-signing CB Aaron Colvin. Even if we do, I'd expect us to bring in some UDFA CB's for depth. 

Thanks.
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(01-28-2018, 03:35 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(01-28-2018, 01:29 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Nice job on this draft. I like the pick of Hurst in the 2nd and Corbett in the 3rd. Didn't know anything about Corbett,  but after some research he looks like an extremely versatile lineman who could start at guard but move to tackle if necessary. I love how you allowed Rudolph to fall to the Jaguars since he's your favorite quarterback. Opinions on him are all over the map, but I like the pick and prefer him to Jackson due to his size. He will need some time to develop, but I want to see what Bortles can do next season with a much better group of receivers.

The Jags should free up some cap room by cutting Nortmann,  Hurns and Ivory and hopefully re-doing the contracts of Poz and Lewis. I would love to see them go after one of the free agent offensive linemen- preferably Pugh or Richberg since the Coughlin connection would give us an advantage. Despite having a good year statistically, I'm not totally confident about this group. They were inconsistent at times and the depth is not great. Even with adding Corbett in the 3rd round and Bright in the 7th, what happens if Robinson or Parnell go down for a while? Pugh may not be the most powerful blocker in the league, but he is very versatile and can fit into any scheme. Due to his injury, we might even get a slight discount and he is still pretty young.

Again, great job on this draft!

I didn't really allow Rudolph to fall to us. In fact, this is the first mock I've made where he did fall to us. When Sam Darnold decided to enter the draft and Ben Roethlisberger announced he will be back in 2018, it really helped our case. Both of those were unexpected to me. Had either one not happened, he wouldn't have made it to our pick. 

I don't wanna cut Hurns at all. He's our most dependable receiver he just needs to stay healthy. Having him with our two young guys (Westbrook and Cole), who will be more experienced and a new, big target in Wims, gives us a nice core. Hurns just needs to keep from getting hurt. I believe Poz and Lewis will both be gone. 

I would've loved to add a swing tackle prospect as well, but we just didn't have enough picks. I believe we will bring in a couple UDFA OT's to compete for that position, as well as bringing in a RB or two as depth behind Fournette and Grant. I also based my draft upon us re-signing CB Aaron Colvin. Even if we do, I'd expect us to bring in some UDFA CB's for depth. 

Thanks.
I see maybe a 2% chance Colvin returns. Can't blame him for taking the money. We disagree some on the wide receivers. Although you didn't mention Robinson by name, he doesn't appear to be a priority to you. I want them to re-sign him as he is the only true number 1 wide receiver on the team. I love Hurns, but he just isn't worth the money he counts against our salary cap. It would be great if he'd agree to less money in a new deal. Finally, I was kind of kidding about Rudolph. I hope you are right about him and that the Jags are able to draft him at the end of round 1.
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(01-28-2018, 04:16 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(01-28-2018, 03:35 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I didn't really allow Rudolph to fall to us. In fact, this is the first mock I've made where he did fall to us. When Sam Darnold decided to enter the draft and Ben Roethlisberger announced he will be back in 2018, it really helped our case. Both of those were unexpected to me. Had either one not happened, he wouldn't have made it to our pick. 

I don't wanna cut Hurns at all. He's our most dependable receiver he just needs to stay healthy. Having him with our two young guys (Westbrook and Cole), who will be more experienced and a new, big target in Wims, gives us a nice core. Hurns just needs to keep from getting hurt. I believe Poz and Lewis will both be gone. 

I would've loved to add a swing tackle prospect as well, but we just didn't have enough picks. I believe we will bring in a couple UDFA OT's to compete for that position, as well as bringing in a RB or two as depth behind Fournette and Grant. I also based my draft upon us re-signing CB Aaron Colvin. Even if we do, I'd expect us to bring in some UDFA CB's for depth. 

Thanks.
I see maybe a 2% chance Colvin returns. Can't blame him for taking the money. We disagree some on the wide receivers. Although you didn't mention Robinson by name, he doesn't appear to be a priority to you. I want them to re-sign him as he is the only true number 1 wide receiver on the team. I love Hurns, but he just isn't worth the money he counts against our salary cap. It would be great if he'd agree to less money in a new deal. Finally, I was kind of kidding about Rudolph. I hope you are right about him and that the Jags are able to draft him at the end of round 1.

I hope you're wrong about Colvin. If he leaves, we'd almost certainly have to use a pick on a CB and that would change the look of my draft. Colvin fits perfectly in our Nickle role. 

I don't think Robinson is worth what he's gonna be asking for. Unless he wants a 1 year deal, I wouldn't bother. He's been inconsistent and he's coming off a major injury that I don't think he'll be 100% recovered from. A lot of people are expecting him to return to his 2015 form right away and to me, that is totally unrealistic. I believe we have good receivers without him. in fact, I believe Cole and Westbrook both have the abilities to step up and be a #1 receiver. Remember, they were both rookies this year. I expect much more from them next season. Add in an improved Offensive interior, a major upgrade at TE, as well as true competition at QB and I believe our passing game will be much improved in 2018. 

A lot of factors went into Rudolph falling to our pick. We still have to worry about some team trading up ahead of us, but I'm hearing the Broncos are ready to throw a big offer at Cousins while Buffalo would be an ideal landing spot for Alex Smith and supposedly, they feel the same way, from what I've been reading. The one major hurdle could be Arizona. I've talked to some of their fans though and they seem convinced they will be taking a CB in round 1. Add that to the fact they hired Carolina Panthers defensive coordinator as head coach and he's used to a very mobile QB like Cam Newton, I just see the Cards and Lamar Jackson being a solid fit in round 2. He'd have to sit behind a veteran and bulk up while learning the pro game and that is where the Eli manning trade comes in. This is all speculation though. With my luck, I'll be wrong on everything in free agency and have to start from scratch.  Cry
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Nice work and explanations. I like your Jags draft.

TheO-LineMatters......What do you think about Bradley Bozeman, C/OG, Alabama?
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(01-28-2018, 10:46 PM)JAGFAN4EVER! Wrote: Nice work and explanations. I like your Jags draft.

TheO-LineMatters......What do you think about Bradley Bozeman, C/OG, Alabama?

Personally, I like him. He's one of the more underrated interior O-Linemen in the draft, but right now his pass blocking is ahead of his run blocking and I'd prefer to have a better run blocker, since we are/will be a predominately run-first team.
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So the Jags roll into next season with Rudolph, Cole and Westbrook? Yikes. That's gross. Our passing offense would take a step back and that's saying something.
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(01-29-2018, 09:16 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: So the Jags roll into next season with Rudolph, Cole and Westbrook? Yikes. That's gross. Our passing offense would take a step back and that's saying something.

I think it takes a big step forward.
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putting these mock drafts together is a lot of work.

I'm not sure what to think of Rudolph. Guy clearly has a big arm and isn't afraid to push the ball down the field. Was watching some clips of him and he isnt quite as stiff as I thought he might be. Can move around the pocket better than I thought.

I wonder if the team will drop a surprise and pick a guy like Will Hernandez. Real physical nasty player. Supposedly did really well at the Senior Bowl during the week. Fits an obvious need.


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(01-29-2018, 10:46 AM)rfc17 Wrote: putting these mock drafts together is a lot of work.

I'm not sure what to think of Rudolph. Guy clearly has a big arm and isn't afraid to push the ball down the field.  Was watching some clips of him and he isnt quite as stiff as I thought he might be.  Can move around the pocket better than I thought.  

I wonder if the team will drop a surprise and pick a guy like Will Hernandez.  Real physical nasty player.  Supposedly did really well at the Senior Bowl during the week.  Fits an obvious need.

He's a great OG and fits the scheme, but I don't know if I see him as a first round pick. If we don't draft a QB early, I don't see it as bringing in "real competition" for Bortles. The only QB I see being taken in round 2 is Jackson and he's too skinny and is way too much of a project to be taken seriously as immediate competition for Bortles' job. I also don't think we spend a lot of money on a FA QB, because we already have a ton invested in the defense and we wanna keep them as long as possible. I believe our only move is to take Rudolph or use 2019 picks to make a deal and trade up to go after Rosen or Mayfield.
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(01-29-2018, 10:46 AM)rfc17 Wrote: putting these mock drafts together is a lot of work.

I'm not sure what to think of Rudolph. Guy clearly has a big arm and isn't afraid to push the ball down the field.  Was watching some clips of him and he isnt quite as stiff as I thought he might be.  Can move around the pocket better than I thought.  

I wonder if the team will drop a surprise and pick a guy like Will Hernandez.  Real physical nasty player.  Supposedly did really well at the Senior Bowl during the week.  Fits an obvious need.

Rudolphs arm is one of my issues with him. He has a meh arm and has to float everything to compensate. His quick outs and deep outs are all floaters and that's a recipe for disaster in the NFL. 

Great touch but his arm talent overall isn't great.
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(01-29-2018, 11:28 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(01-29-2018, 10:46 AM)rfc17 Wrote: putting these mock drafts together is a lot of work.

I'm not sure what to think of Rudolph. Guy clearly has a big arm and isn't afraid to push the ball down the field.  Was watching some clips of him and he isnt quite as stiff as I thought he might be.  Can move around the pocket better than I thought.  

I wonder if the team will drop a surprise and pick a guy like Will Hernandez.  Real physical nasty player.  Supposedly did really well at the Senior Bowl during the week.  Fits an obvious need.

Rudolphs arm is one of my issues with him. He has a meh arm and has to float everything to compensate. His quick outs and deep outs are all floaters and that's a recipe for disaster in the NFL. 

Great touch but his arm talent overall isn't great.

I disagree 100%. I think he has the best arm talent in the draft. He knows how to get just enough air under his passes to hit receivers in stride on his deep passes and his timing on those throws are impeccable. This is something a lot of QB's can't do. They either over-throw receivers, throw the ball short so receivers have to stop, change direction and come back to the ball or they get too much air under it and receivers have to stop running and it turns into a battle with DB's to snatch the ball at it's highest point.
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(01-29-2018, 11:35 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(01-29-2018, 11:28 AM)JackCity Wrote: Rudolphs arm is one of my issues with him. He has a meh arm and has to float everything to compensate. His quick outs and deep outs are all floaters and that's a recipe for disaster in the NFL. 

Great touch but his arm talent overall isn't great.

I disagree 100%. I think he has the best arm talent in the draft. He knows how to get just enough air under his passes to hit receivers in stride on his deep passes and his timing on those throws are impeccable. This is something a lot of QB's can't do. They either over-throw receivers, throw the ball short so receivers have to stop, change direction and come back to the ball or they get too much air under it and receivers have to stop running and it turns into a battle with DB's to snatch the ball at it's highest point.
You think his arm talent is better than Allens?!
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(This post was last modified: 01-29-2018, 01:13 PM by Upper.)

Deep touch is one of the lesser important aspects of arm talent. He admitted Rudolph has great touch. I agree that the rest of the arm is just meh.

More than that though I worry about him being, by far, the worst of the top QBs when he is pressured. I don't see many guys that were as bad as Rudolph when pressured fix that problem in the NFL. And my not many I mean I can't think of one, although I'm sure there have been a couple.
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(01-29-2018, 01:09 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-29-2018, 11:35 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I disagree 100%. I think he has the best arm talent in the draft. He knows how to get just enough air under his passes to hit receivers in stride on his deep passes and his timing on those throws are impeccable. This is something a lot of QB's can't do. They either over-throw receivers, throw the ball short so receivers have to stop, change direction and come back to the ball or they get too much air under it and receivers have to stop running and it turns into a battle with DB's to snatch the ball at it's highest point.
You think his arm talent is better than Allens?!

It depends on how you define "arm talent." To me, that includes accuracy and making all the throws. With that in mind, Rudolph is definitely better. Allen has a Howlitzer for an arm, but he's completely erratic and lacks touch on his throws. He either overthrows guys or throws the ball too hard on short passes and makes it too hard for the receivers to bring it in. In the sense of Allen's erratic passes, he reminds me of Blake Bortles and when it comes to the immense arm strength a complete lack of touch, he reminds me of Byron Leftwich.
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(01-29-2018, 11:35 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(01-29-2018, 11:28 AM)JackCity Wrote: Rudolphs arm is one of my issues with him. He has a meh arm and has to float everything to compensate. His quick outs and deep outs are all floaters and that's a recipe for disaster in the NFL. 

Great touch but his arm talent overall isn't great.

I disagree 100%. I think he has the best arm talent in the draft. He knows how to get just enough air under his passes to hit receivers in stride on his deep passes and his timing on those throws are impeccable. This is something a lot of QB's can't do. They either over-throw receivers, throw the ball short so receivers have to stop, change direction and come back to the ball or they get too much air under it and receivers have to stop running and it turns into a battle with DB's to snatch the ball at it's highest point.

Mayfield, Rosen, Lamar have better arms than him. Velocity wise all of those and Allen have stronger arms than him.

He struggles to drive the ball when he has to,. particularly to the sidelines, which is a tell tale sign of lacking arm strength..there is zero reason to float a quick out and yet Allen does it consistently.  Also while Rudolph has great touch , Washington and Ateman have to adjust a lot to his passes which speaks to questionable placement.

He's not a bad prospect. Just limited upside with his skillset..I wouldn't hate him in the 2nd or 3rd.
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