(02-04-2018, 03:16 PM)jj82284 Wrote:

(02-04-2018, 12:06 PM)TJBender Wrote: As should anyone who actually collaborated with a foreign power to rig the election.

Both sides are guilty here. There's plenty of evidence out there showing that these suspicions existed before the abuse of the FISA court took place, which would mean that fruit of the poisoned tree does not apply. Anyone who participated in or had knowledge of the FISA court manipulation belongs in prison. Anyone who collaborated, arranged the collaboration of or was aware of the collaboration with a foreign power to influence the outcome of an election should join them. If that leaves us with Governor Bob running against Mayor Jill in the 2020 election, that is what it is. This is our great chance as the American public to remind that government that we're in charge, not them.

As the memo states, the origins of the probe were with peter stroxk, an agent mueller has had to admit wasn't credible and was removed from the Russia probe.  This is after his text messages showed not only a hatred of trump but a belief "nothing would come" of the Russia probe.  That's a ringing endorsement after, at the time, 8 months of investigation.  

This whole thing stinks.  There is no evidence of the Trump campaign coordinating with the Russians and the evidence that the Russians hacked the dnc is third party from a company hired by a dnc chairwoman that had to be removed.  Her replacement incidentally dedicated her book to a guy named SETH RICH...

If there's no evidence, then Trump should stop fighting and let the investigation finish.   If the investigation wants to issue some finding of guilt, then they will have to produce actual evidence of it.   The way he struggles against the investigation, demonizing law enforcement, firing or forcing out people from the FBI and the Justice Department, all the crazy tweets, it bears all the hallmarks of a guilty person.  

IF it is true that he is totally innocent of any of this stuff, then it is absolutely, unarguably also true that he is unfit for the Presidency, because apparently, he can't handle the pressure.

Honestly, so far I haven't seen anything that connects the Trump campaign to the Russians, except for Donald Trump acting guilty as hell.   That just stokes my interest.   Why is he acting that way?   The irony is, he could wind up getting in a lot of trouble for obstructing an investigation that would have declared him innocent if he had just ignored it and gone about his business.

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