It's a lot easier to complain about things out of your control than admit you didn't do enough about the things that were under your control. That's an epidemic across all of society right now no doubt.

I hope we aren't doing this all offseason.

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It's a lot easier to complain about things out of your control than admit you didn't do enough about the things that were under your control. That's an epidemic across all of society right now no doubt.

I hope we aren't doing this all offseason.

Agree.  We had to put the foot down and be aggressive for the whole game and we didn't.  Eagles won because they didn't let up.  Refs didn't help but you had to know going in you had to WIN the game not survive the game.  This team needs to learn from it and improve greatly in the offseason.  We have to make solid decisions.

I don't think we would have beaten the Eagles because of our offensive trends.  We don't have the guards to win in the run game.  We don't have a TE to take pressure off the outside receivers.  We need some upgrades and healing to our players.  If we are stuck with Bortles, I really hope the surgery fixes his grip and accounts for some of the inconsistent throws.  Color me skeptical but we shall see.

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It's a lot easier to complain about things out of your control than admit you didn't do enough about the things that were under your control. That's an epidemic across all of society right now no doubt.

I hope we aren't doing this all offseason.

I understand and i think it will slow down and eventually end.

Now that the season is officially over and the off season things begin(like FA and the draft), i think people will slowly move on from the game. But i think, to many, it is still a little bit of a fresh wound. And having to watch a team play in a game that, a lot of people on this board and in this community believe, wrongfully snubbed our home team the opportunity, IMO, rehash a few of the feelings from two weeks ago. Whether you think that the jag team, coaching, or the refs were to blame for our loss, that is just what i think a lot of people feel at this point.

Plus i think complaining about the fact people are complaining is a but hypocritical, isn't it?

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In my view, Upper's take wasn't a complaint. He posited that deflecting negative outcomes to sources out of one's control is an issue that is rampant in current times. Look within, determine means of change. Avoid focusing on others to explain the reasons for setbacks...as there are always a plethora of outside factors to point to.

It's logical, and I agree. Read up on 'Rational Emotive Therapy'.

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In my view, Upper's take wasn't a complaint. He posited that deflecting negative outcomes to sources out of one's control is an issue that is rampant in current times. Look within, determine means of change. Avoid focusing on others to explain the reasons for setbacks...as there are always a plethora of outside factors to point to.

It's logical, and I agree. Read up on 'Rational Emotive Therapy'.

 I agree with this.  And I believe that in every day life this is absolutely true. But in the world of sports, there will always be those outside/uncontrollable factors that people will find a way to blame  for short comings and losses.  Not to mention, in sports, the game it's self is also out of the fans control.  The unfortunate variables in this particular situation also give these kinds of people a lot of ammunition.  Maybe "complaining" was not the right word to use.

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Sacksonville would not have allowed 38 and 41 points against Nick Foles. I feel confident about that.

But yeah, Marrone getting conservative on both sides was the wrong move. Pederson goes for the kill and that is how you have to play.

We allowed 42 to the Steelers. 


So even on a bad day this defense can get carved.

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Would Petersen have been that ballsy if he didn’t witness how being conservative screwed the Jags 2 weeks before?

Yes he would have.

He's an aggressive and intelligent play caller.

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See I'm looking at what DID happen.

So am I. You'd be crazy to say that the Jaguars couldn't have won if they'd performed better on offence or defence late in the game (when you know that they could have).

You'd also be crazy to say you should just forget officiating causing a 14-point swing in a 4-point game.

I've always been the first to say that the best way to deal with officials gifting the other team a touchdown or taking away one of yours is simple; just score another one. If you don't do that, then at the end of the day you lose. But don't ignore the fact that bad officiating swung that game by more points than the final differential. Because if you ignore either side of the equation, then frankly you're not looking at what DID happen.

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See I'm looking at what DID happen.

So am I. You'd be crazy to say that the Jaguars couldn't have won if they'd performed better on offence or defence late in the game (when you know that they could have).

You'd also be crazy to say you should just forget officiating causing a 14-point swing in a 4-point game.

I've always been the first to say that the best way to deal with officials gifting the other team a touchdown or taking away one of yours is simple; just score another one. If you don't do that, then at the end of the day you lose. But don't ignore the fact that bad officiating swung that game by more points than the final differential. Because if you ignore either side of the equation, then frankly you're not looking at what DID happen.

Exactly! Had we lost by 21 points and had a couple calls go against us, oh well. But the way we lost is so frustrating. The non calls for holding make it seem like we werent being aggresive enough when in reality those non calls stopped drives in the fourth quarter when we were moving the ball to potentially score more points. I really wanted the PATS to win just so we would have that extra chip on our shoulder to beat the brakes off them next year!

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The Jags weren't ready. Probably don't have the right QB, defense got full of themselves, situational play calling was terrible, etc... Even if we'd held on against New England, we probably lose to the Eagles yesterday IMO. Appreciate and celebrate the season for what it was, and get ready for an exciting offseason and exciting schedule of home games next year. It's time to move on.

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The Jags weren't ready.  Probably don't have the right QB, defense got full of themselves, situational play calling was terrible, etc...    Even if we'd held on against New England, we probably lose to the Eagles yesterday IMO.  Appreciate and celebrate the season for what it was, and get ready for an exciting offseason and exciting schedule of home games next year.  It's time to move on.

Yeah. My thoughts as well.  ^

Could the Jags have beaten the pats if a few calls go differently and they don't go into "safe mode" in the second half?
Yes. Probably. 

But those things happened, and a better team that was more prepared might overcome them. 

I expect the 2018 Jags to be a better team, and they were pretty damn good in '17.

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This Superbowl was ours and got taken from us.

We need to pull a UCF and put up a Championship banner !!!

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The Jags weren't ready.  Probably don't have the right QB, defense got full of themselves, situational play calling was terrible, etc...    Even if we'd held on against New England, we probably lose to the Eagles yesterday IMO.  Appreciate and celebrate the season for what it was, and get ready for an exciting offseason and exciting schedule of home games next year.  It's time to move on.

Yep. This year will be better.

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The Eagles dominated both lines. They ran when they wanted to run. Foles had all day to throw the ball. The Patriots defense dominated the Jags oline in the 2nd half. They shut down the running game. Blake was getting pressured, hit and sacked in the 2nd half. They say games are won in the trenches and that is why we lost and the Eagles beat them.

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Nope.

Our team and coaching staff bottled away a 4th quarter lead.

I think that's a fair statement. Regardless of the fact that the stripes clearly had it out for us in that game the bottom line is that we didn't get creative enough and aggressive enough to stave them off in the 4th quarter. I know we can harp on the non PI calls on back to back drives for Lewis but we simply didn't overcome those obstacles. 

Pederson showed you how it's done last night with that victory over the Patriots. His receiver gets mugged in the endzone on 3rd down. Refs don't give them the PI call which they rightfully deserved. So he says "[BLEEP] it.... let's go for it with this reverse pass to Foles". And it looked very similar to the trick play Oklahoma ran against Georgia in that first half close to half time. 

You have to give credit where it's due. I was a little disappointed to see them continue to run it as much as they did into a wall of defenders in that game. And I was surprised they didn't let Bortles get more creative with his own legs on some of those plays. They got away from the Corey Grant plays too. 

Hopefully they get more aggressive this year and start to trust Bortles with the football through the air. If they can't trust him then they need to replace him.

Since you mentioned Fornette running into a wall, I just wondered if anyone else noticed how easily the Eagles were gashing the pats compared to us. Is Fornette just not that good?

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I think that's a fair statement. Regardless of the fact that the stripes clearly had it out for us in that game the bottom line is that we didn't get creative enough and aggressive enough to stave them off in the 4th quarter. I know we can harp on the non PI calls on back to back drives for Lewis but we simply didn't overcome those obstacles. 

Pederson showed you how it's done last night with that victory over the Patriots. His receiver gets mugged in the endzone on 3rd down. Refs don't give them the PI call which they rightfully deserved. So he says "[BLEEP] it.... let's go for it with this reverse pass to Foles". And it looked very similar to the trick play Oklahoma ran against Georgia in that first half close to half time. 

You have to give credit where it's due. I was a little disappointed to see them continue to run it as much as they did into a wall of defenders in that game. And I was surprised they didn't let Bortles get more creative with his own legs on some of those plays. They got away from the Corey Grant plays too. 

Hopefully they get more aggressive this year and start to trust Bortles with the football through the air. If they can't trust him then they need to replace him.

Since you mentioned Fornette running into a wall, I just wondered if anyone else noticed how easily the Eagles were gashing the pats compared to us. Is Fornette just not that good?

The iggles have the #1 Offensive line and they made holes that you could drive a truck through. This is the one part of the Offense we need to fix. And having a offensive line guru as your head coach our line should look like the iggels line.

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Jags are no doubt a more talented team than NE but that's why they play the games. Even if we'd gotten there, I still think the Philly game would have been a tough one, their offense just seems to be humming along.

I agree.  After watching them last night, they didn’t hold back at all.  I’m not sure it would’ve ended well for the Jags.  I don’t think they would’ve been able to keep up for 4 quarters offensively.

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Jags are no doubt a more talented team than NE but that's why they play the games. Even if we'd gotten there, I still think the Philly game would have been a tough one, their offense just seems to be humming along.

I agree.  After watching them last night, they didn’t hold back at all.  I’m not sure it would’ve ended well for the Jags.  I don’t think they would’ve been able to keep up for 4 quarters offensively.

Why? we did against the steelers. And i think our defense would have handled the eagles much better then the pats did.

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