(02-14-2018, 09:02 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(02-14-2018, 08:50 PM)jj82284 Wrote: Who says this?

The gun lobby and the Republicans they pay for. Every damn time. They're as quick to say, "This is a mental health issue," as those same Republicans were to kick everyone out of the hospitals in the '80s. 

I mean, at some point, pull your heads out of your [BLEEP]. This is now a weekly thing, maybe even twice in some weeks. How do we even define a "mass" shooting anymore? What's the head count up to before it's not just "some loon with a gun"? Does the location of the shooting play into it? Like, if someone shoots 4 kids at a school, is it a mass shooting whereas 4 adults at an office is just a job dispute gone horribly awry?

[BLEEP] it. Amend the Constitution. Americans can't handle guns, and to the group that's inevitably salivating over the chance to reply, yeah, that's aimed at you too. If we can't go one week without someone shooting up a concert or a school or a mall or a workplace or a church or town square, it's no longer a mental health issue. It's not a terrorism issue, and it's not an illegal immigration issue so don't you even try to go there, scumbag. It's a gun issue. Specifically, Americans don't know how to use them responsibly. Amend the [BLEEP] Constitution. Don't take them away, but codify the right to own them. And if your response is they can have it when they pry it from your cold dead hands, then, hey, you made your own bed on that one.

Guns should be registered. Ownership should be tightly controlled. Possession of a gun by a person other than the registered owner is a felony. An individual's license to own a gun may be revoked upon showing of cause, and no cause is needed to deny a license to own a firearm in the first place. You want to own a gun? Fine. Your criminal record, medical history and background check results are now public record. And if you or a dependent of yours use a gun in the commission of a crime, that gun is seized and destroyed along with any and all others you own, and you go to jail for a long, long time. Zero tolerance for gun violence.

You want to own a gun? Fine. Prove that you're a responsible, stable individual who should have one first, and keep proving that every damn day until you die or lose it. Amend the Constitution, because that's the only way it can legally be done, but Charlie H. Crist, how can anyone sit there and continue to argue that lax gun laws (if they exist at all) are not allowing these guns to make it to people who then use them to murder others?

"What's the point of more laws if more laws don't work?"

Stop dodging. You have no counter to the real point, so you hide behind a lawyer argument. More laws work wonders if you enforce the ones already on the books and the new ones.