(02-15-2018, 08:06 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(02-15-2018, 01:16 AM)TJBender Wrote: And it's precisely that all or none attitude that's going to keep getting Americans slaughtered, but you go on feeling like your "right" to take out a banana republic is somehow making the world a better place.

No, it's not. No more than any other crime. Your hysterics are antithetical to American philosophy, law, and jurisprudence, all of which have and do make the world a better place. 

So fine, I'll give up my guns when you give up your cars, knives, tools, liquor, drugs, and submit to a mental health exam every time you head to Home Depot. Because if we're going to blame inanimate objects for the actions of Evil people then I demand we blame them all.

Where's your proof in that? Regarding American Philosophy, law and jurisprudence? Especially regarding the "making the world a better place". Where the hell do you come up with that? 

Look. I love my country just as much as the next person. But this idea that we're so [BLEEP] star spangled awesome 365 days a year needs to stop. Our Government is corrupt. Democracy is a [BLEEP] lie in this country. It's an Oligarchy or Plutocracy. It's anything BUT a legitimate Democracy. There's a reason why Trump was able to win over his voter base with the "Make America Great Again" slogan.

Our Philosophies have always been flawed as well. Nearly since day one. "All Men Are Created Equal" said the founding fathers... who owned slaves.... so much for that right? As far as law and order and justice? Really? That's probably the MOST corrupted aspect of our country. 

Our meddling in world wide affairs is why this Country is slowly burning like the old Roman Empire. That's why we're constantly up in arms about one another. That's why we're always divided. Too much outside influence. A bunch of rich folks telling us what to think and what to feel and what to believe. It's nonsense man. Nonsense. 

I am with you about the guns. I'll give you that. I don't think a few rotten apples with a couple of seeds loose should spoil the barrel. I really don't. I think it's childish and obnoxious. If someone wants to make a statement and go on a killing spree they'll find ways to do it. You can make poisonous gases, liquids, fire bombs, I.E.D's & rig deadly traps at a mass or grand level if you truly want to. All of which can be pulled off in some cases with everyday household items you can find at your local Wal-Mart or Home Improvement center. 

But listen to your own words. Listen to mine. It's an environmental issue. It's a disease. People are being beaten into the ground day after day and mentally they just [BLEEP] snap man. They lose their [BLEEP] and fall out of touch with reality. We should be talking about the loss of life here and what was the root cause. Instead? We're all on here bickering back and forth about amendments and the constitution.

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