(02-15-2018, 08:18 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(02-15-2018, 08:14 PM)DarloJAG84 Wrote: I guess I'm lucky that a baseball bat or a knife.. or in my case a 5 iron (having said that, if I tried to hit someone with a golf club, I'd only shank it), would be up against a baseball bat or a knife and not a gun.

I work for the Ambulance Service, I know these things do happen and yes I agree that saying "at least it's an irregular occurrence" is not in any way comforting to a victim and or their families. In fact, saying that literally just tells those people that they are merely a statistic, and not a good one.

We have intelligence and tactics to try and combat these incidents without force, but would I attempt to be a hero without force? No way! Why? I have a wife, a 7 year old son and a baby girl on the way (due April).

I totally understand that my last sentence opens me up for you to say about the need for protection - young family etc etc.. I know my water pistol would do very little damage, unless the assailant is concerned for their appearance.. I've enjoyed this debate very much. It's weird to say that given the subject at hand, but it's really important, I think, to understand peoples reasons for things.. even if they don't change your own, at least they educate you (me) on where other people are coming from so thank you for engaging in this. People become very defensive over this subject and it's refreshing to have a clean discussion over it.

Little girl due in April over here as well. Congrats my man.

80% of what I talk about is nonesense.. the other 25% is made up statistics...