(02-16-2018, 08:28 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(02-16-2018, 02:03 AM)wrong_box Wrote: I agree with the hate thing, but hate has also been ever present and yet until recently very few mass killings by guns...Even back during the black vs white era, lots of hate, violence, and anger, yet very few mass gun killings even though it was incredibly simple to buy weapons...I remember buying my first shotgun at the hardware store as a teenager without having to have my parents with me, bought my first rifle at the same place...

Youth back in the day, would always find a way to get in trouble and make people hate them, but even though there were guns in nearly every pickup truck on campus, no one went and got them and used them, they simply fought until there was a winner...The very thought of using our weapons never entered our minds, or if someone embarrassed us, or bullied us we either beat the [BLEEP] out of them and went on with our lives, or got our [BLEEP] beat and went on with our lives, without having to grab our guns...

I realize that todays world isnt like "Leave it to Beaver" or "Andy Griffith" I'm not quite that old to have lived when punishments were that simple...If we got in trouble, we got our [BLEEP] beat by our parents and were held accountable for what we did, today's youth are not...I saw 2 different videos of the families of teen age boys who were old enough to work, who both (separately) broke into someones home  and were killed by the homeowners...The reaction of both families when asked how they felt said, "Well how is he supposed to get money he needs for shoes and clothes and stuff he needs?"

Good points. Hate has been around forever. Long before gunpowder and firearms were invented mankind had sticks and stones and blades and bows. That didn't seem to slow anybody down from kicking [BLEEP] and taking names when they wanted to for multiple reasons. My dad said the same thing. He had rifles, shotguns and pistols growing up and he grew up relatively poor. "We used our [BLEEP] hands and fists back then to handle disputes when words could no longer suffice... like men...". That's what he said. And I believe him. 

I saw that video too. I think it was down in Dade County. That was CRAZY. Play stupid games and you win stupid prizes...or die. Family values are dwindling down each decade. I blame technology to an extent. 10 - 15 years ago I could drive down San Pablo on a Saturday or Sunday and that elementary park would be flooded with kids riding or running around the track, playing basketball, playing soccer or football and now every weekend when I get back with my dad from fishing it's a ghost town year round. 

Saddest [BLEEP] I've ever seen man. I was born in 1988. I'll be 30 in April. I grew up during an interesting era where video games were still in the 16 bit phase and Mortal Kombat was the big burden of Government to get off store shelves. Fast forward to now. THAT was a joke in comparison to the [BLEEP] kids can access on TV through Youtube, Twitch, Xvideos, etc. It can't be a coincidence that a rise in violence, suicide, STD's, depression, drug dependency, illegal activity and so forth have sky rocketed as technology has sky rocketed. 

Whether it's programming or not. There needs to be a tighter emphasis on family values again. Parents need to educate their children on the difference between reality and fantasy. I think that's a start.

agree but how do you force family values on people? When violent movies and video games are tools parents allow their children to watch and play non stop so they are occupied and not bothering them, there is a problem, but how can you alleviate that? How can you force parents to actually spend quality time with their kids? How can you make kids like to emulate and glorify Rappers less who "sing" about killing cops, killing people who disrespect them, taking what they want from anyone, jacking cars, robbing and looting? "Music" today is all about glorifying "thug life" and gaining materialistic items...Technology depends on what you are grouping in that term...The ability to find anything you want in seconds via the internet is both a blessing and curse, but how do you make todays youth turn the tide back into a civilized group of kids who have morals and values?

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