http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20180...intriguing

Parts I found of particular interest...

2. The Jaguars sit at No. 29, but the action is heavy around them. Well ahead of the draft – not knowing what the board will look like – Nos. 21-23 have been traded. Buffalo flipped No. 21 and left tackle Cordy Glenn to Cincinnati for No. 12; Kansas City traded No. 22 to Buffalo to move up last year to take quarterback Patrick Mahomes; and Tuesday, the Rams traded No. 23 to New England for a package that featured receiver Brandin Cooks.

3. The Patriots holding Nos. 23 and 31 should have the Jaguars’ attention.

4. The Patriots could also take a receiver, tight end or offensive tackle at 23, which could complicate the Jaguars’ plans and have them thinking about a trade-up scenario that gets them ahead of New England and New Orleans.

I think if the Jaguars are forced to trade up ahead of the Pats and Saints, Seattle and Dallas would be the likely target spots.

Seattle is in as close to full rebuild mode as a team with a franchise QB can get.

Dallas often likes trading down to look smart and make a splash.

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There's no reason to trade up unless it's for a QB, and if we're trading up for a QB we at least need to get to 14 to jump the Cardinals.

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There's no reason to trade up unless it's for a QB, and if we're trading up for a QB we at least need to get to 14 to jump the Cardinals.

I agree with the second part.

If we are targeting a QB, we need to get to Green Bay's spot at minimum to have a chance at one of the top guys.

If the team is targeting a particular position/player, trading up might be necessary.

Fans hate it, but trading up got us Allen Robinson, Myles Jack and Cam Robinson.

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I am all for trading up as long as we get the right guys. Just don't pull a Gene Smith when you trade up.

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I get that QB runs force your hand.

But maybe this time we let it play out if we aren't convinced there's a "must have" guy for us in this draft that we can realistically get.

What if NE uses their firepower to get one of their own.

Would they be parting ways with Hoyer? If not Hoyer, I'm sure other veterans will be hitting the market closer to cuts if they aren't comfortable with Kessler by then.

It's better to have options, than to force yourself into a decision.

Maybe we just sit still and let it unfold. It could be we come away from this draft with only a backup and not a potential starter. It's not like we're going to have a chance at the top of the crop. We're going to be looking at second tier guys anyway. Not unless there's a monster move. I'm not sure that's necessary. I don't think we're in a position to feel compelled to do that, and I don't see the QB worth doing that for in this class.

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I personally wouldn't want them trading up from 29 unless they are after a QB. I think value should meet them at 29 if they are going OL or TE.

Of course - it's hard to know if there's a player they covet at some other position that may make them inclined to move up in the draft. I don't see it happening though. Of course - I didn't see the Smoot or Westbrook picks happening last year either.

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I get that QB runs force your hand.

But maybe this time we let it play out if we aren't convinced there's a "must have" guy for us in this draft that we can realistically get.

What if NE uses their firepower to get one of their own.

Would they be parting ways with Hoyer?  If not Hoyer, I'm sure other veterans will be hitting the market closer to cuts if they aren't comfortable with Kessler by then.

It's better to have options, than to force yourself into a decision.

Maybe we just sit still and let it unfold.  It could be we come away from this draft with only a backup and not a potential starter.  It's not like we're going to have a chance at the top of the crop.  We're going to be looking at second tier guys anyway.  Not unless there's a monster move.  I'm not sure that's necessary.  I don't think we're in a position to feel compelled to do that, and I don't see the QB worth doing that for in this class.

The really difficult thing for me in trading up for a QB is that this team was close enough to the Super Bowl to wholly justify the "immediate impact" sort of guy to try to get them over the top.

In my mind, QB is not an immediate impact player.  As much promise as Carson Wentz showed in his first year, he took a huge leap in his second year, as did Goff.

Mahomes may or may not thrive under Reid, but Reid kept him on the bench his first year.

With a high QB pick, whether by trading up or standing pat, the reward of stabilizing the position and theoretically extending the contention window is enticing.  But the risk of possibly shortening the window by eschewing the immediate impact player for a guy who may not even develop into the guy at QB is high.

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I am all for trading up as long as we get the right guys. Just don't pull a Gene Smith when you trade up.

That's the thing about drafting.

Whether you trade up or not, whether you use BAP/Need or some combination, you gotta get the right guys.

If you evaluate properly, it shouldn't be an issue.

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Yep, I don't see a QB we target and/or trade up for being immediate impact. Mabye if Jackson, we'd see some wrinkles thrown in, but I would expect us to make wholesale changes and he certainly wouldn't be a plug in starter (nor would any QB we could realistically get.)

With our first round pick, there are several positions that could be immediately filled by an upgrade starter. Hard to give that up for a backup QB that you'll spend most if not all the time developing on the bench. I suppose it would depend on if they feel that guy could become our franchise QB and no better candidate in the upcoming draft (long game thinking.)

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

If we are going to trade up I'd honestly rather do it with our 2nd round pick because I feel we will just miss out on some guys we really like at the bottom of the 2nd

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I'd only trade up for a QB. There is plenty of depth at TE and OG. We don't need an OT and as long as Bortles is the QB, WR is not a high need.

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I want to trade out of 29 for the sole reason that the history of pick #29 is horrendous

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

I want to trade out of 29 for the sole reason that the history of pick #29 is horrendous

If Rudolph is already taken by pick #29, I'm all for trading down.

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I think we went out of our way to set us up to take Best Player Available. We don't have to take any certain player or position in the first round. If a top 10 player on our board falls past 20, then I'm all for moving up to get him... but that's the only reason to move up.

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I want to trade out of 29 for the sole reason that the history of pick #29 is horrendous

I will from now on refer to our pick as 28.b.

It has to work.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

I want to trade out of 29 for the sole reason that the history of pick #29 is horrendous

I will from now on refer to our pick as 28.b.

It has to work.

Well done!

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I like moving up to get a targeted guy but not in the first round, it's too expensive to move even a few spots. Moving up in the 2nd round, though, obviously costs less. There's solid players at 29, I think we should stay there; the QB class isn't good enough to give away several solid picks for.

I've always said that if we build the OL into a solid wall we could even put Jags02 in to play QB.

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I like moving up to get a targeted guy but not in the first round, it's too expensive to move even a few spots. Moving up in the 2nd round, though, obviously costs less. There's solid players at 29, I think we should stay there; the QB class isn't good enough to give away several solid picks for.

I've always said that if we build the OL into a solid wall we could even put Jags02 in to play QB.

I tend to agree with this generally.  There should be lots of good talent available to us at 29 that can help this team.

I just may not be opposed to trading up if there's a guy we want because not every trade up in the first is cost prohibitive.

Not knocking 02, but I don't want him in at QB, solid wall OL or not.

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I'm one of the few who have met '02. He has the height and is quick (around beer taps anyway, maybe it translates to football speed). Give him 6-8 minutes back there and he'll find someone open.

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I think teams are higher on Hurst than we realize and that a few teams in that 20-30 range are trying to make a move to out them in a good place to get him. Just a gut feeling on that one.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

I want to trade out of 29 for the sole reason that the history of pick #29 is horrendous

R. Jay Soward?

I just hope whoever we pick stays off the sauce and out of the nightclubs. And no limos to practice...

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