History begs to differ.

There are easily dozens upon dozens of QBs with better college careers.

It's as if you first began watching college football in 2016, and never watched a game outside Clemson.

Something the wise learn with experience, is that you don't double down when you're off the mark.  You take it as an opportunity to learn and grow, and do not waste that opportunity.

"Something the wise learn with experience, is that you don't double down when you're off the mark.  You take it as an opportunity to learn and grow, and do not waste that opportunity" 

Let's talk about it like adults then. Have a feeling this will end up like the thread where you thought most LBs still play at 260+ 

Who are your best college QBs over the last 20 years? And what criteria do you use to determine them.  I'm intrigued to hear about the dozens and dozens of QBs too, I think you'll find his resume stacks up and beats a lot of them. 

-Watson went back to back to national championships. Played Bama both times and played great , won 1 of them. 

- Won the Manning award given to countries best QB twice (only played to ever be awarded it twice) 

- Won the Davey O' Brien award twice. Given to the best college QB since 1981. One of only 4 players to achieve that.  

- Finished in the top 5 for Heisman votes 2 years in a row.

- Historic amount of production for a QB. (Only played to ever throw for 4,000 yards and run for 1,000. )

- Regularly played one of the toughest schedules in the country. 

- Historic post season performance ( Multiple MVPs, broke the record for most yards in a national championship, did it against the #1 defense.)

- All round showed a high level of play on he field and leadership during his time at Clemson.  

So yeah, please tell me the dozens and dozens of QBs who stack up with that. I'll be here waiting for ya.

Ha... I cannot wait for next season.

Watson is going to fail hard. You just can't have as weak as an arm as he does and still succeed. And no offense to him, his brain power isn't much compared to the other weakest arm QB I can remember, Chad Pennington.

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I think people confuse hall of fame and franchise qbs.

There is certainly a price too high for a franchise qb like Bradford,smith,luck,flacco etc

There's no price too high for a Manning,Brady,Brees etc

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I think people confuse hall of fame and franchise qbs.

There is certainly a price too high for a franchise qb like Bradford,smith,luck,flacco etc

There's no price too high for a Manning,Brady,Brees etc

Agreed, but rarely are there opportunities to acquire such QBs if you aren't rolling the dice in the draft.  In the case of the draft, the cost is the loss of a draft pick, and years (years of stagnation, rebuilding, etc.)  That cost can be extremely high in the worst cases... franchise devaluation, staff overhaul, revenue loss, even moving.

In free agency, though... it's nearly impossible to acquire the best regardless of what you're offering.  It's a matter of keeping what you have - and franchises typically do what they have to in order to keep them... until the cost/benefit starts to decline in the twilight years.  Near the very end, the cost of keeping even the HOF QBs is higher than the cost of not moving on.  The Colts got there with Manning.  NE is going to have to decide what to do soon with Brady.  Brady is making that decision quite difficult.  NE has done a terrific job of building and maintaining their franchise to weather that storm, IMO.  I hate that they have, but they appear to have done it.

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