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Family Sep. Bleeding Heart Tour

(This post was last modified: 06-22-2018, 09:12 AM by pirkster.)

(06-21-2018, 11:22 PM)Last42min Wrote:
(06-21-2018, 05:59 PM)pirkster Wrote: This executive order will not stand up to court challenge, if challenged.

The work isn't done.  It's till the responsibility of Congress (who wrote the atrocity of law to begin with) to fix the law.

This is also why executive order wasn't the initial step.  It's not viable.

Hopefully, the EO will be challenged and struck down.  Only then would the Democrats be exposed for the obstructionists they have been all along regarding immigration reform.  They've already begun to pivot on the EO itself - they were given what they wanted and still can't give him credit for action they themselves aren't willing to take.

Congress will be interesting to watch.  It's about to get real regarding who truly wants to help "the children" and their spin for inaction.  Because, it's the only single thing they've got (which isn't even an issue that favors them - the majority sides with Trump and Democrats simply can't be honest about the true problems with current immigration law) to try to exploit in November.

Why do you think it will get struck down? If I'm not mistaken, this hinges on a Judge Gee granting them an exemption from the Flores settlement. If she shoots it down, I expect Trump to shift the blame to her and continue following her previous ruling. If she grants the exemption, Trump will be allowed to detain children with their parents for longer than 20 days. Trump is well within his rights as this executive order is written, so long as he follows the Judge's ruling on the matter.

It's quite simple - you can't change the law with executive order.

If challenged, it's not likely to pass scrutiny.  It will be kept alive and judge shopped until they find their desired result.

This President has been challenged and pushed merely for winning an election.  There are those who will challenge this out of spite as well.  Again, it's got to last until November - otherwise there's nothing to run against him with.

(06-21-2018, 08:41 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: Once again the Democrats take the unpopular side

They just can't help themselves.  All they had to do is stay sane... and they simply can't do it.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ren_crisis

"When families are arrested and separated after attempting to enter the United States illegally, 54% of Likely U.S. Voters say the parents are more to blame for breaking the law. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that only 35% believe the federal government is more to blame for enforcing the law. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure."
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Family Sep. Bleeding Heart Tour - by B2hibry - 06-18-2018, 09:50 AM
RE: Family Sep. Bleeding Heart Tour - by Kotite - 06-18-2018, 12:00 PM
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RE: Family Sep. Bleeding Heart Tour - by B2hibry - 06-18-2018, 04:59 PM
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RE: Family Sep. Bleeding Heart Tour - by Kotite - 06-18-2018, 07:16 PM
RE: Family Sep. Bleeding Heart Tour - by copycat - 06-18-2018, 08:20 PM
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