(06-28-2018, 02:51 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(06-26-2018, 10:10 AM)pirkster Wrote: Well, well, well... someone agrees with the President that there are -hole countries.  Funny how that works.

Next we'll come to the realization that defending our border would be a good idea.

If we reach advanced thought levels, we'll recognize that without defensible borders, shared language, and shared culture we aren't a country at all.

Perhaps there is hope for the left when logic and facts are applied to problem solving.  Any progress towards a better understanding is a positive step.

Your thoughts are moving too fast and skipping relevant questions along the way.

Are there sh*thole countries? Maybe.  Better question: is it appropriate or helpful for the President to declare that there are sh*thole countries? No. Even better question: can good people come from bad countries, Yes or are they all tainted? No  Of course good, productive people can come from even the most backwards, poor, and downtrodden country. I agree.

Is defending our border a good idea? Of course.  Better question: are we already doing so adequately? There aren't enough border patrol agents to cover the expanse, so the answer is no. Isn't the problem more one of people overstaying their visas? Most of them don't have visas and a percentage of those who do absolutely overstay their welcome.

Is a shared language important? Of course. Better question: are immigrants today learning English more slowly or more quickly than previous waves? They are learning English more quickly.

(06-26-2018, 09:08 AM)rollerjag Wrote:

(06-26-2018, 12:03 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: I do understand it, yes, but they're still breaking the law. Knowingly. There was a time in my life I could either go hungry or steal food to eat. I had a choice to make and if I stole food then I had to be prepared to face the consequences of being caught. It's not that I don't care about the plight of these folks, they lead a much harder life than I do and I feel for them, but you can't break the law and expect to be "rewarded" with sanctuary. You do it legally the way you should and you don't have to worry about this crap. 50 years

When a parent decides the threat to his or her family's life is worth a treacherous trip to a country where they may be separated, why can't more empathy and compassion be shown by us, the people with the much more fortunate life.