(07-02-2018, 03:12 PM)Last42min Wrote:

(07-01-2018, 06:59 PM)copycat Wrote: Who are you trying to impress?

He might be using 50 cent words, but he's not wrong. Logic and philosophy has been under-emphasized in our country for over a half-century. Personally, I think it's a major contributor to "team" politics, but we could make an entirely separate thread about that. Imo, politics should be defined by goals. Unfortunately, we spend more time talking about policies. Only when the goal is clear can we decide if the policies are being effective.

Or one could say:

"This party first politics needs to end.  We need to recognize that we have more in common than not and build a foundation from there.  We all want the same things, a decent wage,  to be treated fairly, a safe environment to raise our kids and a secure future.  Can we not all agree this is our collective goal, now how do we get there?"

Mike is correct, you are correct and no one had to look up a phrase that in my 50 plus years on the planet have never heard.  Know your audience.  This is a football message board for crying out loud not a Harvard debate forum.  

No offense to either of you.  Rant over.

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