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Tack Talk

#21

(07-31-2018, 02:11 PM)Nashville.Dave Wrote:
(07-30-2018, 08:58 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Your teams sites are talking about the same thing. So blind homerism you say? It’s only training camp but if you think the tacks won’t suffer from growing pains, you’d be mistaken. The videos I’ve seen show a bunch of struggles, one of which is Mariota and ball placement. Once again, just training camp but seems to be an annual theme. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tennesseetitans...ead_day_5/

https://gotitans.com/threads/titans-trai...30.100582/

Its all good. Just find it funny you pick the one bad day mariota had, not the 4 days of excellence.

Didn't he throw more ints than tds last year?
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#22

(08-01-2018, 02:08 PM)B2hibry Wrote:
(08-01-2018, 01:49 PM)Nashville.Dave Wrote: Excited about this secondary. Robinson has turned a big weakness into a strength in just a cpl years. Just hope the pass rush improves, i think it will. All around, tacks will be a top 10 defense this season

Top 10 based on what? I get that you are a tack fan but you appear overly optimistic on anything tack related. There are just so many question marks to be claiming all this domination, especially during another reset of sorts.

They were middle of the pack. With improvement, top 10 isn’t that big of a stretch. The Titans upgraded at MLB, CB, and added depth and a potential starter at OLB. I wouldn’t say it’s out of the question.
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#23

(08-01-2018, 02:53 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote:
(07-31-2018, 02:11 PM)Nashville.Dave Wrote: Its all good. Just find it funny you pick the one bad day mariota had, not the 4 days of excellence.

Didn't he throw more ints than tds last year?

He also had the most comeback victories of his career. We all saw how the light would come on when Mariota got to call his own plays, which is why Titans fans are excited about our coaching staff. You guys think it’s a weakness. We’re just happy to get away from run, run, run, punt.
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#24

(08-01-2018, 08:24 PM)Psychop1 Wrote:
(08-01-2018, 02:53 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Didn't he throw more ints than tds last year?

He also had the most comeback victories of his career. We all saw how the light would come on when Mariota got to call his own plays, which is why Titans fans are excited about our coaching staff. You guys think it’s a weakness. We’re just happy to get away from run, run, run, punt.

Exactly. We saw what happened when mularkey backed off. He was just too proud to stay out of the way. Right back to the same old crap the next week.
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#25

(08-01-2018, 08:24 PM)Psychop1 Wrote:
(08-01-2018, 02:53 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Didn't he throw more ints than tds last year?

He also had the most comeback victories of his career. We all saw how the light would come on when Mariota got to call his own plays, which is why Titans fans are excited about our coaching staff. You guys think it’s a weakness. We’re just happy to get away from run, run, run, punt.

Are there QBs in the NFL that don’t select plays in the hurry-up or two minute? I think this whole fan talk of allowing Mariota to call his own plays has gotten exaggerated a bit. The hurry up (fans thinking Mariota is calling the shots) works sparingly but really is just a band-aid for a weak offense. Jags fans were screaming for the hurry up often in 2016 because it felt unstoppable. But if the tacks staff truly wants Mariota to call plays in all situations, especially under the newer scheme, oh boy. I predict you guys will want him burned at the stake by mid-season.
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#26

The point isn’t about Mariota calling his own plays as much as it is about him not running Robiskie’s plays.
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#27

(08-02-2018, 06:26 AM)Psychop1 Wrote: The point isn’t about Mariota calling his own plays as much as it is about him not running Robiskie’s plays.

That I can get behind! That dude is a mess and should disappear from football.
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#28

(08-02-2018, 06:26 AM)Psychop1 Wrote: The point isn’t about Mariota calling his own plays as much as it is about him not running Robiskie’s plays.

Thank you
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#29

Cyp torn ACL.
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#31

Addition by subtraction?
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#32
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2018, 06:28 PM by B2hibry.)

Mariota and new scheme appear to be struggling through some growing pains, outside the run. Another rough offensive outing with numerous drops and Mariota throwing high and/or behind receivers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tennesseetitans...ad_day_10/

https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2018/8...y-10-notes
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#33

(08-06-2018, 06:24 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Mariota and new scheme appear to be struggling through some growing pains, outside the run. Another rough offensive outing with numerous drops and Mariota throwing high and/or behind receivers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tennesseetitans...ad_day_10/

https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2018/8...y-10-notes

To be expected, new offense and all. Also, the tack defense they're going against is greatly improved. Should pay off as the season goes
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#34

(08-07-2018, 06:22 AM)Nashville.Dave Wrote:
(08-06-2018, 06:24 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Mariota and new scheme appear to be struggling through some growing pains, outside the run. Another rough offensive outing with numerous drops and Mariota throwing high and/or behind receivers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tennesseetitans...ad_day_10/

https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2018/8...y-10-notes

To be expected, new offense and all. Also, the tack defense they're going against is greatly improved. Should pay off as the season goes

I wouldn't necessarily say it's too be expected as a general rule, but putting mariota's 2017 with all of this starts to bring the picture into focus of a guy that, if he ever "makes it," will be on the level of an Alex Smith.

Clearly you can win with Alex Smith just like the titans have won games with mariota. The problem is when there's a disconnect on recognizing what you have and you start flailing changing out everything around him thinking they're the reason he's not the next Peyton Manning so far.

Mariota is a middling talent at his position. Not a great thrower, good runner that can't take a hit, and generally mediocre from a cerebral part of the game standpoint.

So the practices don't mean much on their own, it's just reinforcing what he's already shown, that he is just the latest in a long line of QBs that won't live up to their draft position.
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#35

(08-07-2018, 08:13 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(08-07-2018, 06:22 AM)Nashville.Dave Wrote: To be expected, new offense and all. Also, the tack defense they're going against is greatly improved. Should pay off as the season goes

I wouldn't necessarily say it's too be expected as a general rule, but putting mariota's 2017 with all of this starts to bring the picture into focus of a guy that, if he ever "makes it," will be on the level of an Alex Smith.

Clearly you can win with Alex Smith just like the titans have won games with mariota. The problem is when there's a disconnect on recognizing what you have and you start flailing changing out everything around him thinking they're the reason he's not the next Peyton Manning so far.

Mariota is a middling talent at his position. Not a great thrower, good runner that can't take a hit, and generally mediocre from a cerebral part of the game standpoint.

So the practices don't mean much on their own, it's just reinforcing what he's already shown, that he is just the latest in a long line of QBs that won't live up to their draft position.

Maybe. Maybe not. Until the games count i'm not worried. Still glad they moved on from mularkey. Last year was terribly frustrating. 
Mariota may not be elite, but this season at least he will have more of a chance to prove he doesnt suck. Time will tell
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#36

(08-07-2018, 06:22 AM)Nashville.Dave Wrote:
(08-06-2018, 06:24 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Mariota and new scheme appear to be struggling through some growing pains, outside the run. Another rough offensive outing with numerous drops and Mariota throwing high and/or behind receivers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tennesseetitans...ad_day_10/

https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2018/8...y-10-notes

To be expected, new offense and all. Also, the tack defense they're going against is greatly improved. Should pay off as the season goes

"Defense greatly improved", that is yet to be seen.. All I know is the Texans defense nose dived when Vrabel took over it and after hearing their camp interviews, the Texans' defensive players are ecstatic to have RAC back at the helm.

Either way, improved defense or not..that doesn't cause your QB to sail or underthrow passes. That's a accuracy issue..not a issue facing a better defense.
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#37

(08-07-2018, 08:13 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(08-07-2018, 06:22 AM)Nashville.Dave Wrote: To be expected, new offense and all. Also, the tack defense they're going against is greatly improved. Should pay off as the season goes

I wouldn't necessarily say it's too be expected as a general rule, but putting mariota's 2017 with all of this starts to bring the picture into focus of a guy that, if he ever "makes it," will be on the level of an Alex Smith.

Clearly you can win with Alex Smith just like the titans have won games with mariota. The problem is when there's a disconnect on recognizing what you have and you start flailing changing out everything around him thinking they're the reason he's not the next Peyton Manning so far.

Mariota is a middling talent at his position. Not a great thrower, good runner that can't take a hit, and generally mediocre from a cerebral part of the game standpoint.

So the practices don't mean much on their own, it's just reinforcing what he's already shown, that he is just the latest in a long line of QBs that won't live up to their draft position.


He isn't even Alex Smith.. Alex Smith is one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL and he rarely makes a mistake which leads to a interception.. Two areas in Mariota's game that is holding him back.
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#38

(08-07-2018, 01:53 PM)TurndownforWatt Wrote:
(08-07-2018, 08:13 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: I wouldn't necessarily say it's too be expected as a general rule, but putting mariota's 2017 with all of this starts to bring the picture into focus of a guy that, if he ever "makes it," will be on the level of an Alex Smith.

Clearly you can win with Alex Smith just like the titans have won games with mariota. The problem is when there's a disconnect on recognizing what you have and you start flailing changing out everything around him thinking they're the reason he's not the next Peyton Manning so far.

Mariota is a middling talent at his position. Not a great thrower, good runner that can't take a hit, and generally mediocre from a cerebral part of the game standpoint.

So the practices don't mean much on their own, it's just reinforcing what he's already shown, that he is just the latest in a long line of QBs that won't live up to their draft position.


He isn't even Alex Smith.. Alex Smith is one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL and he rarely makes a mistake which leads to a interception.. Two areas in Mariota's game that is holding him back.

I agree with your point, but the comparison was toward what the teams led by guys like them can expect as far as winning. The titans have had two winning seasons in a row and even managed a playoff win against the incredible wilting chiefs, but they fired their coach because they recognized what everyone else did, which is that they're not actually a good team. Their fans blamed coaching, I personally think it's talent level. If Mariota actually was an elite QB they'd have won the division last year.
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#39

(08-07-2018, 01:53 PM)TurndownforWatt Wrote:
(08-07-2018, 08:13 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: I wouldn't necessarily say it's too be expected as a general rule, but putting mariota's 2017 with all of this starts to bring the picture into focus of a guy that, if he ever "makes it," will be on the level of an Alex Smith.

Clearly you can win with Alex Smith just like the titans have won games with mariota. The problem is when there's a disconnect on recognizing what you have and you start flailing changing out everything around him thinking they're the reason he's not the next Peyton Manning so far.

Mariota is a middling talent at his position. Not a great thrower, good runner that can't take a hit, and generally mediocre from a cerebral part of the game standpoint.

So the practices don't mean much on their own, it's just reinforcing what he's already shown, that he is just the latest in a long line of QBs that won't live up to their draft position.


He isn't even Alex Smith.. Alex Smith is one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL and he rarely makes a mistake which leads to a interception.. Two areas in Mariota's game that is holding him back.

That should be the biggest concern for tacks fans right now though, his accuracy. I can understand some scheme growing pains, but accuracy is something that is concerning. 

Blake's has gotten better, Mariota's is getting worse.
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#40

(08-07-2018, 05:02 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote:
(08-07-2018, 01:53 PM)TurndownforWatt Wrote: He isn't even Alex Smith.. Alex Smith is one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL and he rarely makes a mistake which leads to a interception.. Two areas in Mariota's game that is holding him back.

That should be the biggest concern for tacks fans right now though, his accuracy. I can understand some scheme growing pains, but accuracy is something that is concerning. 

Blake's has gotten better, Mariota's is getting worse.

He’s had one bad practice. A practice. You guys didn’t want to post links to the good practices he had. Bortles could only muster garbage time TD’s against what some here consider a so so defense just last season. Has Bortles improved enough to score a meaningful TD?
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