Westbrook seems to be developing quite a following. 

A few thoughts of caution:

1. Dede does not size up well enough to play as a number one or number two receiver. You can try it, but it will be a disappointment. 

2. #1 and #2 WRs must have speed, hands, and agility, but they must have a decent amount of girth. You have to have the kind of body type that allows you to power THROUGH the defender assigned to cover you as you will rarely be able to side-step your way around him.

3. Westbrook compares to Desmond Howard or perhaps Peter Warrick. Neither player ever made it as a WR in the NFL relating to an inability to handle big NFL DBs, who were just as fast, and much more powerful than what they played against in college. They couldn't get off the bump.

4. Small WRs coming out of college almost universally fail due to not having the physical attributes needed. Unfortunately, teams still draft them as return specialists without providing scope of their limitations.

Someone needs to tell Antonio Brown that he doesn't 'size up well enough to play as a number one or number two receiver'.

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Westbrook seems to be developing quite a following. 

A few thoughts of caution:

1. Dede does not size up well enough to play as a number one or number two receiver. You can try it, but it will be a disappointment. 

2. #1 and #2 WRs must have speed, hands, and agility, but they must have a decent amount of girth. You have to have the kind of body type that allows you to power THROUGH the defender assigned to cover you as you will rarely be able to side-step your way around him.

3. Westbrook compares to Desmond Howard or perhaps Peter Warrick. Neither player ever made it as a WR in the NFL relating to an inability to handle big NFL DBs, who were just as fast, and much more powerful than what they played against in college. They couldn't get off the bump.

4. Small WRs coming out of college almost universally fail due to not having the physical attributes needed. Unfortunately, teams still draft them as return specialists without providing scope of their limitations.

The best size comparison for Westbrook is Marvin Harrison

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I think Cole and Westbrook will separate themselves from the west of the WR this year with Chark making a good push. Lee will pick up some big first downs for us

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Westbrook seems to be developing quite a following. 

A few thoughts of caution:

1. Dede does not size up well enough to play as a number one or number two receiver. You can try it, but it will be a disappointment. 

2. #1 and #2 WRs must have speed, hands, and agility, but they must have a decent amount of girth. You have to have the kind of body type that allows you to power THROUGH the defender assigned to cover you as you will rarely be able to side-step your way around him.

3. Westbrook compares to Desmond Howard or perhaps Peter Warrick. Neither player ever made it as a WR in the NFL relating to an inability to handle big NFL DBs, who were just as fast, and much more powerful than what they played against in college. They couldn't get off the bump.

4. Small WRs coming out of college almost universally fail due to not having the physical attributes needed. Unfortunately, teams still draft them as return specialists without providing scope of their limitations.

Someone needs to tell Antonio Brown that he doesn't 'size up well enough to play as a number one or number two receiver'.

All I was thinking reading this. Also Odell Beckham ain't exactly big either, neither are guys like Stefon Diggs and of course Larry Fitzgerald. No one said you had to be a big Calvin Johnson type to be a WR1. Just because some or maybe even most can't get the job done, doesn't mean it can't be done or is even necessary.

Just different types of receivers. Smaller guys happen to work on their route running and quick feet which usually pays dividends towards the length of their career. Look at a guy like Dez that dropped off a cliff as he got slower because he always relied on his athleticism alone to get the job done.

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I like Westbrook to break out this year. He's shown some amazing body control in preseason practices and made a few "wow" catches last year.
Sadly, the best one he made last year didn't count - he got ruled out of bounds, but replay clearly showed he amazingly got his toes in bounds as he laid out. Unfortunately, the cameras were obscured by players on the sideline when he hit the ground, so replay couldn't prove the entire process of the catch.

You can't teach that stuff, and I think he will be really good.

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So I was thinking... Dede Westbrook was a Biletnikoff winner that was first round talent that slip due to off the field concerns. Then he played very well during the preseason last year before his injury. He even still had a pretty solid rookie campaign. Fast forward to this offseason, he’s still looking good in camp and  looked even better in game action. Maybe he could be our star receiver?

He needs to do better than last year if he wants to be a star. Guy looked like a stud in preseason and camp last year too. Then the lights came on and he went to just being 'alright.' Hopefully goes better this year.

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Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster

http://youtu.be/ouGM3NWpjxk The Home Hypnotist!

http://youtu.be/XQRFkn0Ly3A Media on the Brain Link!
 

Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

It'd be nice if he can turn into a TY Hilton/Desean Jackson mix. Big play guy.

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technically he is our most talented wr. im rooting for cole. still hate the lee resigning.

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For all the people coming up with Dede Westbrook (6-0, 178) comparisons its wonderful if Dede was actually as good as Marvin Harrison (6-0, 175) , Antonio Brown (5-10, 181) or T. Y. Hilton (5-9, 180), and ODD that not a one of you could conjure up Wes Welker (5-9, 185), Steve Smith (5-9, 185), Tavon Austin (5-8, 176), Ace Sanders (5-7, 178), Devin Hester (5-11, 190) or even Percy Harvin (5-11, 184)

Westbrook played just SEVEN games his first season after being a fourth round pick in the 2017 draft. He may have had a couple dozen catches, but in doing so did he demonstrate big play reliability? IF Westbrook did have the explosiveness that it takes to make big plays why did he only return one single punt? By comparison, Marqise Lee, a player least likely to be the vision of a explosive punt returner had FIVE punt returns.

So you can glorify Westbrook in order to forward an agenda, but obviously Dede has durability concerns at his size. Undeniable durability concerns for sure.

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I don't have any reason to question Dede. He only took to the field for the first time as a rookie mid-way through the season, and sense then he's had several very impressive catches including a few demonstrating explosiveness. Since we're into comparing stats, let's take a look...

Rookie season stats including post season

• Dede Westbrook - 10 games, 8 starts: 34 rec for 424 yards, 12.5 ypc, 1 TD
  
• Antonio Brown - 12 games, 0 starts: 21 rec for 257 yards, 12.2 ypc, 0 TD
  
• Marvin Harrison - 17 games, 16 starts: 67 rec for 907 yards, 13.5 ypc, 8 TDs
  
• TY Hilton - 15 games, 1 start: 50 rec for 861 yards,  17.2 ypc, 7 TDs
  

He's right on pace with Brown, although Harrison and Ty started out hot. Hilton was catching some nice deep passes for TDs as a rookie. Harrion has twice as many catches with twice as many starts, but several more TDs. I'd say Westbrook is coming along just fine, but I would like to see more TDs. 

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'02

Per rotoworld:

Jaguars.com reports Dede Westbrook has remained a standout throughout training camp.

In-house writer John Oehser believes Westbrook might be forcing himself into the Jaguars' top three, and "could be earning him a far bigger role this season than some observers expected." Westbrook has been hyped since the opening days of Jags camp. The Jags have a mass of bodies at receiver, but Westbrook could have some early-season fantasy appeal as a plug-and-play WR4/5.

Source: jaguars.com Aug 14 - 2:19 PM

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

For all the people coming up with Dede Westbrook (6-0, 178) comparisons its wonderful if Dede was actually as good as Marvin Harrison (6-0, 175) , Antonio Brown (5-10, 181) or T. Y. Hilton (5-9, 180), and ODD that not a one of you could conjure up Wes Welker (5-9, 185), Steve Smith (5-9, 185), Tavon Austin (5-8, 176), Ace Sanders (5-7, 178), Devin Hester (5-11, 190) or even Percy Harvin (5-11, 184)

Westbrook played just SEVEN games his first season after being a fourth round pick in the 2017 draft. He may have had a couple dozen catches, but in doing so did he demonstrate big play reliability? IF Westbrook did have the explosiveness that it takes to make big plays why did he only return one single punt? By comparison, Marqise Lee, a player least likely to be the vision of a explosive punt returner had FIVE punt returns.

So you can glorify Westbrook in order to forward an agenda, but obviously Dede has durability concerns at his size. Undeniable durability concerns for sure.

Antonio Brown played 9 games and had 167 yards in his rookie year.

In other words, you keep making these observations based on a handful of games.  

Your conclusions are just as dumb as those that would proclaim him to be a star.  And I don't see anyone doing that.

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I skipped ahead so I may be piggy backing here but I think next season our #1 and #2 could be Cole and Westbrook with Chark in the slot.
Westbrook was a first round talent who fell because of past issues and character concerns.
And sometimes guys just fall through the cracks when they play at places like Western Kentucky or whatever... lol

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https://twitter.com/jaguars/status/10298...33797?s=21

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For all the people coming up with Dede Westbrook (6-0, 178) comparisons its wonderful if Dede was actually as good as Marvin Harrison (6-0, 175) , Antonio Brown (5-10, 181) or T. Y. Hilton (5-9, 180), and ODD that not a one of you could conjure up Wes Welker (5-9, 185), Steve Smith (5-9, 185), Tavon Austin (5-8, 176), Ace Sanders (5-7, 178), Devin Hester (5-11, 190) or even Percy Harvin (5-11, 184)

Westbrook played just SEVEN games his first season after being a fourth round pick in the 2017 draft. He may have had a couple dozen catches, but in doing so did he demonstrate big play reliability? IF Westbrook did have the explosiveness that it takes to make big plays why did he only return one single punt? By comparison, Marqise Lee, a player least likely to be the vision of a explosive punt returner had FIVE punt returns.

So you can glorify Westbrook in order to forward an agenda, but obviously Dede has durability concerns at his size. Undeniable durability concerns for sure.

Nice attempt to back track after talking out your rear.

Sad thing is that you only continued to make yourself look like an ignorant fool.

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https://twitter.com/jaguars/status/10298...33797?s=21

Per Times Union article posted 8/15/18 7:36 PM

Under the headline, "Jaguars camp report"


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*During one-on-one drills, Lee fought through All-Pro Vikings CB Xavier Rhodes to catch a pass. Lee showed more aggressiveness running patterns over the middle.

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For all the people coming up with Dede Westbrook (6-0, 178) comparisons its wonderful if Dede was actually as good as Marvin Harrison (6-0, 175) , Antonio Brown (5-10, 181) or T. Y. Hilton (5-9, 180), and ODD that not a one of you could conjure up Wes Welker (5-9, 185), Steve Smith (5-9, 185), Tavon Austin (5-8, 176), Ace Sanders (5-7, 178), Devin Hester (5-11, 190) or even Percy Harvin (5-11, 184)

Westbrook played just SEVEN games his first season after being a fourth round pick in the 2017 draft. He may have had a couple dozen catches, but in doing so did he demonstrate big play reliability? IF Westbrook did have the explosiveness that it takes to make big plays why did he only return one single punt? By comparison, Marqise Lee, a player least likely to be the vision of a explosive punt returner had FIVE punt returns.

So you can glorify Westbrook in order to forward an agenda, but obviously Dede has durability concerns at his size. Undeniable durability concerns for sure.

Nice attempt to back track after talking out your rear.

Sad thing is that you only continued to make yourself look like an ignorant fool.

How do you suggest I am back-tracking? I am NOT struggling to make something of a very small sample size. I'm making you understand there is insufficient data to support Westbrook IS our best wide receiver. 

For what reason did Westbrook NOT contribute more as a punt returner last season? Quite a paper Jaguar some of you are attempting to create.

A little wisdom for the wise, Don't write checks Dede Westbrook's body can't cash.

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I trust Keenan and the coaches to put the best available players on the field. We have a lot of potential in that WR room. It's just a matter of who can stay healthy.

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No pain, no gain.

From a fantasy perspective, shoud I start Donte Moncrief or Dede Westbrook week one? 

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'02

best size comparison for Westbrook is Marvin Harrison

I get that is more fun to comp guys to all time greats and extreme outliers, but Westbrook's best physical comp is a 96% match to Kevin Jurovich. Followed by Deontay Burnett, Dres Anderson, KD Cannon, and...Rashad Greene.

Lol sorry I didn't realize this was a dead thread, we can let it die again.

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best size comparison for Westbrook is Marvin Harrison

I get that is more fun to comp guys to all time greats and extreme outliers, but Westbrook's best physical comp is a 96% match to Kevin Jurovich. Followed by Deontay Burnett, Dres Anderson, KD Cannon, and...Rashad Greene.

Lol sorry I didn't realize this was a dead thread, we can let it die again.

Just like your love for Vic Beasley

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