I just don’t see how you can let go a 10 sack player. I remember when we couldn’t find a pass rusher to save our lives.

Guys like Aaron Kaumpman, Greg Favors, Paul Spicer, Reggie Hayward, etc.

Fowler has done more than any of those guys while missing his rookie season. 2.5 sacks against the Patriots. That’s big time. He scored a TD and should have had another against the Browns.

This guy is a playmaker and a game changer.

Have we honestly reached a point where “hmmmm, nah we can just let this guy go...he only gave us 10 sacks”

Maybe it becomes a number game with our Dline costing too much. But I’d give up Jackson and Dareus to keep Fowler. That’s just me. DE are hard to come by.

Beasts on the interior DL are top commodities as well.  Unfortunately, we're liable to have to let Jackson and/or Dareus go in addition to being unable to resign Fowler.

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As of now I would nominate it being called the Josh Gordon line.

So we'd have the Blackmon High Point on the Gordon Scale?

I do think Blackmon was probably talented enough to deal with. We were still giving him chances and kept him on our roster (heck we still own his rights), he just simply didn't want to try to come back.

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So we'd have the Blackmon High Point on the Gordon Scale?

I do think Blackmon was probably talented enough to deal with. We were still giving him chances and kept him on our roster (heck we still own his rights), he just simply didn't want to try to come back.

Guy had a 200 yard game with Gabbert throwing him the ball  

The Jamarcus Russell Low Point.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

I just don’t see how you can let go a 10 sack player. I remember when we couldn’t find a pass rusher to save our lives.

Guys like Aaron Kaumpman, Greg Favors, Paul Spicer, Reggie Hayward, etc.

Fowler has done more than any of those guys while missing his rookie season. 2.5 sacks against the Patriots. That’s big time. He scored a TD and should have had another against the Browns.

This guy is a playmaker and a game changer.

Have we honestly reached a point where “hmmmm, nah we can just let this guy go...he only gave us 10 sacks”

Maybe it becomes a number game with our Dline costing too much. But I’d give up Jackson and Dareus to keep Fowler. That’s just me. DE are hard to come by.

But we have the top DE duo in the NFL with Calais and Yannick. You would decimate the defensive interior to keep a backup DE? That makes no sense. I realize we're probably gonna have to cut Jackson after this season just to stay under the salary cap. I hate it, but I'm assuming that's why we drafted Bryan, to take over as his replacement. As much as I don't like it, I can live with it though. Dareus on the other hand, has to either be retained or we MUST find a suitable replacement for him. There is a HUGE dropoff in the run defense when Dareus is not in there. I honestly believe a run stopping NT is what we will target in the 2019 draft, so we can make Dareus expendable. Until that happens though, Dareus is the key to our run defense.

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There will be a time when you can hate on Ramsey. While he’s here, I love him cus he keeps other teams from getting down the field

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Fowler and Ramsey are both [BLEEP] thugs it wouldnt hurt me in the least if we didnt resign either one. one is a headcase the other is a loud mouth thug that has no respect for the game.

We need high character players like Derek Cox and Chris Prosinski in our secondary.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Dante Fowler, Jr. needs to grow up? Jacksonville needs to grow up. Twenty three years of Jaguars' football and the front office still believes they need to placate Florida Gator fans in order to sell tickets. Having a local media infested with Florida Gator operatives doesn't help the Jaguars at all. 

Former Jaguars GM, Gene Smith, was commanded by Shad Khan to figure out a way to make Tim Tebow a Jaguar. When he was rebuffed by Smith and the staff who told him it was best to stick with developing Gabbert, Khan stated "We're looking ahead with no regrets".

Caldwell started off right. The first question out of the mouths of reporters was, "So what do you think about Tim Tebow?" The first thing on the minds of reporters was about a guy who wasn't even on the Jaguars. Reporters are supposed to ignore noise and focus on the players in the locker room. Maurice Jones-Drew said, "For him to come out and be direct and forward with where we are going, that's one of the greatest things I've seen at a press conference in a long time."

We all saw how the Florida Gator pom-pom moms in the local media reacted to MJD.

Yup, the local media doesn't care a flip about the Jaguars franchise. They'd much rather see Khan move the team to London. They will condescend upon Jaguars fans right and left with all the facts, figures, and falsehoods necessary to jimmy the Jaguars up at the roots. They will cover the trans-Atlantic transfer with glow. In the far off, Khan will get his name slapped on the side of some campus building in Gainesville. 

That's because the local media's role is that of career-placement specialist for Florida Gator football. 

Essentially, Bryan and Fowler were sand-bagging it through training camp. That's because neither player was close to being worthy of a first round draft pick. Yet they grabbed lots of spotlight in the game against the Bucs. "Look, Martha! Two Gators are standing out against a back-drop of third and fourth stringers!"

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I just don’t see how you can let go a 10 sack player. I remember when we couldn’t find a pass rusher to save our lives.

Guys like Aaron Kaumpman, Greg Favors, Paul Spicer, Reggie Hayward, etc.

Fowler has done more than any of those guys while missing his rookie season. 2.5 sacks against the Patriots. That’s big time. He scored a TD and should have had another against the Browns.

This guy is a playmaker and a game changer.

Have we honestly reached a point where “hmmmm, nah we can just let this guy go...he only gave us 10 sacks”

Maybe it becomes a number game with our Dline costing too much. But I’d give up Jackson and Dareus to keep Fowler. That’s just me. DE are hard to come by.

Beasts on the interior DL are top commodities as well.  Unfortunately, we're liable to have to let Jackson and/or Dareus go in addition to being unable to resign Fowler.

Not really.  


The Jags will carry over the cap space from this year, and you have several better candidates to cut, like Church, Parnell, and even Abry Jones.  Cutting those 3 players saves you over $16M on the cap and none of them are as critical to the team as Jackson or Dareus.  The Jags have always had a preference for cutting players with little or no dead money hits. 

IF they did cut Jackson or Dareus, then Dareus would be the more likely candidate for that reason.

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Dante Fowler, Jr. needs to grow up? Jacksonville needs to grow up. Twenty three years of Jaguars' football and the front office still believes they need to placate Florida Gator fans in order to sell tickets. Having a local media infested with Florida Gator operatives doesn't help the Jaguars at all. 

Former Jaguars GM, Gene Smith, was commanded by Shad Khan to figure out a way to make Tim Tebow a Jaguar. When he was rebuffed by Smith and the staff who told him it was best to stick with developing Gabbert, Khan stated "We're looking ahead with no regrets".

Caldwell started off right. The first question out of the mouths of reporters was, "So what do you think about Tim Tebow?" The first thing on the minds of reporters was about a guy who wasn't even on the Jaguars. Reporters are supposed to ignore noise and focus on the players in the locker room. Maurice Jones-Drew said, "For him to come out and be direct and forward with where we are going, that's one of the greatest things I've seen at a press conference in a long time."

We all saw how the Florida Gator pom-pom moms in the local media reacted to MJD.

Yup, the local media doesn't care a flip about the Jaguars franchise. They'd much rather see Khan move the team to London. They will condescend upon Jaguars fans right and left with all the facts, figures, and falsehoods necessary to jimmy the Jaguars up at the roots. They will cover the trans-Atlantic transfer with glow. In the far off, Khan will get his name slapped on the side of some campus building in Gainesville. 

That's because the local media's role is that of career-placement specialist for Florida Gator football. 

Essentially, Bryan and Fowler were sand-bagging it through training camp. That's because neither player was close to being worthy of a first round draft pick. Yet they grabbed lots of spotlight in the game against the Bucs. "Look, Martha! Two Gators are standing out against a back-drop of third and fourth stringers!"

There’s no way that you don’t own a massive amount of shares in RJ Reynolds.

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Jaguars Fundamentalist

Dante Fowler, Jr. needs to grow up? Jacksonville needs to grow up. Twenty three years of Jaguars' football and the front office still believes they need to placate Florida Gator fans in order to sell tickets. Having a local media infested with Florida Gator operatives doesn't help the Jaguars at all. 

Former Jaguars GM, Gene Smith, was commanded by Shad Khan to figure out a way to make Tim Tebow a Jaguar. When he was rebuffed by Smith and the staff who told him it was best to stick with developing Gabbert, Khan stated "We're looking ahead with no regrets".

Caldwell started off right. The first question out of the mouths of reporters was, "So what do you think about Tim Tebow?" The first thing on the minds of reporters was about a guy who wasn't even on the Jaguars. Reporters are supposed to ignore noise and focus on the players in the locker room. Maurice Jones-Drew said, "For him to come out and be direct and forward with where we are going, that's one of the greatest things I've seen at a press conference in a long time."

We all saw how the Florida Gator pom-pom moms in the local media reacted to MJD.

Yup, the local media doesn't care a flip about the Jaguars franchise. They'd much rather see Khan move the team to London. They will condescend upon Jaguars fans right and left with all the facts, figures, and falsehoods necessary to jimmy the Jaguars up at the roots. They will cover the trans-Atlantic transfer with glow. In the far off, Khan will get his name slapped on the side of some campus building in Gainesville. 

That's because the local media's role is that of career-placement specialist for Florida Gator football. 

Essentially, Bryan and Fowler were sand-bagging it through training camp. That's because neither player was close to being worthy of a first round draft pick. Yet they grabbed lots of spotlight in the game against the Bucs. "Look, Martha! Two Gators are standing out against a back-drop of third and fourth stringers!"

My dog smells idiocy in this post. I can see it. Amazing.

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

Dante Fowler, Jr. needs to grow up? Jacksonville needs to grow up. Twenty three years of Jaguars' football and the front office still believes they need to placate Florida Gator fans in order to sell tickets. Having a local media infested with Florida Gator operatives doesn't help the Jaguars at all. 

Former Jaguars GM, Gene Smith, was commanded by Shad Khan to figure out a way to make Tim Tebow a Jaguar. When he was rebuffed by Smith and the staff who told him it was best to stick with developing Gabbert, Khan stated "We're looking ahead with no regrets".

Caldwell started off right. The first question out of the mouths of reporters was, "So what do you think about Tim Tebow?" The first thing on the minds of reporters was about a guy who wasn't even on the Jaguars. Reporters are supposed to ignore noise and focus on the players in the locker room. Maurice Jones-Drew said, "For him to come out and be direct and forward with where we are going, that's one of the greatest things I've seen at a press conference in a long time."

We all saw how the Florida Gator pom-pom moms in the local media reacted to MJD.

Yup, the local media doesn't care a flip about the Jaguars franchise. They'd much rather see Khan move the team to London. They will condescend upon Jaguars fans right and left with all the facts, figures, and falsehoods necessary to jimmy the Jaguars up at the roots. They will cover the trans-Atlantic transfer with glow. In the far off, Khan will get his name slapped on the side of some campus building in Gainesville. 

That's because the local media's role is that of career-placement specialist for Florida Gator football. 

Essentially, Bryan and Fowler were sand-bagging it through training camp. That's because neither player was close to being worthy of a first round draft pick. Yet they grabbed lots of spotlight in the game against the Bucs. "Look, Martha! Two Gators are standing out against a back-drop of third and fourth stringers!"

I just.....wut?

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...Twenty three years of Jaguars' football and the front office still believes they need to placate Florida Gator fans in order to sell tickets. Having a local media infested with Florida Gator operatives doesn't help the Jaguars at all. 

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I thought he would have done something against the Bucs scrubs last night.

He didn't.

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I thought he would have done something against the Bucs scrubs last night.

He didn't.

He was in the backfield the whole time. They had negative rush yards while he was on the field.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

I thought he would have done something against the Bucs scrubs last night.

He didn't.

He was in the backfield the whole time. They had negative rush yards while he was on the field.

Well... yes and no.
Not sure how many "hurries" or "hits" he was credited with, but he only got 2 total tackles for the game... I think he played 3 full quarters iirc.
He did have a patented Fowler offside penalty... He had one play where he blew up the backfield and got a TFL of like -6 yards. But from what I could tell this is because the RT or up back didn't do what they were supposed to. Both guys end up on the LB coming in and Fowler is essentially untouched.

Anywho... the obvious course for Fowler has pretty much been laid out... We're gonna hold on to him for now (I would assume we would have heard of substantial trade rumors). Hope he gets us enough sacks through the year to be worth the roster spot. And hopefully perform well enough someone signs him for money in the offseason netting us a comp pick.
Best case scenario, he plays out of his mind and makes it a tough decision for the team. But ultimately I think Fowler is no longer a Jag after this season, no matter what.

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I thought he would have done something against the Bucs scrubs last night.

He didn't.

He made that one nice tackle in the backfield when they forgot to block him. And he got another pretty decent pressure against the third string RT. Other than that he was pretty quiet. And of course he got an offsides.

Pretty typical Dante outing really. When teams leave him unblocked he causes damage (but then again who doesn't?). When teams put a guy in his way he is pretty quiet. And he's almost guaranteed to get at least one penalty.

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He was in the backfield the whole time. They had negative rush yards while he was on the field.

Well... yes and no.
Not sure how many "hurries" or "hits" he was credited with, but he only got 2 total tackles for the game... I think he played 3 full quarters iirc.
He did have a patented Fowler offside penalty... He had one play where he blew up the backfield and got a TFL of like -6 yards. But from what I could tell this is because the RT or up back didn't do what they were supposed to. Both guys end up on the LB coming in and Fowler is essentially untouched.

Anywho... the obvious course for Fowler has pretty much been laid out... We're gonna hold on to him for now (I would assume we would have heard of substantial trade rumors). Hope he gets us enough sacks through the year to be worth the roster spot. And hopefully perform well enough someone signs him for money in the offseason netting us a comp pick.
Best case scenario, he plays out of his mind and makes it a tough decision for the team. But ultimately I think Fowler is no longer a Jag after this season, no matter what.

I agree. And honestly, I think its best for both parties. Let us get one awesome year of him trying to prove he's a top DE and then let him cash in elsewhere so we can really settle in on Ngakoue and grooming Bryan.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

I think, in the end, he finds himself playing OLB on a 3-4 defense. I smile thinking about what Bill Cowher might have done with an athlete like Fowler 20 years ago.

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Dante Fowler, Jr. needs to grow up? Jacksonville needs to grow up. Twenty three years of Jaguars' football and the front office still believes they need to placate Florida Gator fans in order to sell tickets. Having a local media infested with Florida Gator operatives doesn't help the Jaguars at all. 

Former Jaguars GM, Gene Smith, was commanded by Shad Khan to figure out a way to make Tim Tebow a Jaguar. When he was rebuffed by Smith and the staff who told him it was best to stick with developing Gabbert, Khan stated "We're looking ahead with no regrets".

Caldwell started off right. The first question out of the mouths of reporters was, "So what do you think about Tim Tebow?" The first thing on the minds of reporters was about a guy who wasn't even on the Jaguars. Reporters are supposed to ignore noise and focus on the players in the locker room. Maurice Jones-Drew said, "For him to come out and be direct and forward with where we are going, that's one of the greatest things I've seen at a press conference in a long time."

We all saw how the Florida Gator pom-pom moms in the local media reacted to MJD.

Yup, the local media doesn't care a flip about the Jaguars franchise. They'd much rather see Khan move the team to London. They will condescend upon Jaguars fans right and left with all the facts, figures, and falsehoods necessary to jimmy the Jaguars up at the roots. They will cover the trans-Atlantic transfer with glow. In the far off, Khan will get his name slapped on the side of some campus building in Gainesville. 

That's because the local media's role is that of career-placement specialist for Florida Gator football. 

Essentially, Bryan and Fowler were sand-bagging it through training camp. That's because neither player was close to being worthy of a first round draft pick. Yet they grabbed lots of spotlight in the game against the Bucs. "Look, Martha! Two Gators are standing out against a back-drop of third and fourth stringers!"

My dog smells idiocy in this post. I can see it. Amazing.

Michael Vick did hard time in a federal penitentiary for instigating a fight between dogs.

The cancer Fowler instigates a fight between two women and the media defends him pointing out he did NOTHING illegal.

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My dog smells idiocy in this post. I can see it. Amazing.

Michael Vick did hard time in a federal penitentiary for instigating a fight between dogs.

The cancer Fowler instigates a fight between two women and the media defends him pointing out he did NOTHING illegal.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato