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Dante Fowler's Future


(10-24-2018, 10:16 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-24-2018, 09:36 AM)Kane Wrote: Church just needs to go imo. He served his stop gap purpose.
Campbell would probably restructure, otherwise certainly release. (I think in todays NFL you need two rush ends more than a "big end")
I think Malik is still playing up to his contract.

Bouye is looking like a one year wonder, however I'm wondering how much Bouye and Ramsey's semi-struggles have been because of scheme and playcall (zone obsession with Wash)
Dareus is a pretty large number too, but we shouldn't let him get away until we know we have a solid NT.

I think Telvin might need to take a pay cut though. We paid him very handsomely and he's been way out of place a lot this year... not sure what's up with that.

That ALL being said... I'm worried we're being hard on our D guys when they are on the field too much and put in bad position by the DC.

Not sure we need to dump a bunch of money into the offense though. QB should be a rookie. Perhaps we toss some more money at OL but Norwell isn't working out great.
Jags have to be careful in FA the next couple offseasons.

We need to stop trading away draft capital on a lost season, imo.
We need 2 OL (LT/RT, RG) guys, another RB, another TE, and a QB.

MORE OT OF FOWLER:
I think he's playing just as we thought he would. He's gonna earn a contract from someone. If he's cheap enough we should try to retain him. If he's commanding too much, you let him go and get that comp pick.

In terms of next year's defense, I'd say:
  • Church walks and Harrison steps in. Saves 6.2 mil in 2019. 
  • Bouye is fine unless his play doesn't normalize before season's end, and it probably will. It's not the scheme BTW. He's being beaten in man coverage early in games. Not terribly often, but giving up chunks on scoring drives. A little concerning. I bet he rallies though. If they can convince him to restructure, fine. 
  • Malik Jackson is playing great. No change needed. He's locked up and has earned his money. 
  • Dareus is a luxury we probably can't afford, but they'll need to draft one of the better NT types in the draft to replace him. Run stuffer needed.  Maybe he restructures a bit based on snap count? 
  • Campbell is either gone after this year or after 2019. Not sure what he'd be open to changing in order to stay. They have the out after this season if they want and cutting him will save 11.5 mil.  Bryan is not going to just replicate his impact right away (if ever) and they'd need to add another DE that can pass rush and play the run well. 
  • Gipson played well last season. He's been pretty good in coverage this year for the most part. He's looked bad in run support the past two weeks though. Not sure what's going on there. His replacement is not on the roster though. Could save around 7 mil by cutting him. But who takes over?  Finding a cheap replacement would really help the cap. 
So - you've got to make real decisions on Dareus and Campbell. Gipson likely stays. Bouye likely stays (at the same rate.) Jackson isn't going anywhere. And anyone you release will leave a void in need of an early/early-ish pick expenditure. 


Best case scenario is probably Dareus restructuring and the team waiting till after 2019 to cut Campbell if he's still playing well by this season's end. 
Then - If the team could somehow manage to draft an heir apparent QB, a quality rotational DE, and a run stuffing NT in 2019 they could be nicely reset in 2020 and have room to keep Ngakoue, Ramsey and Jack. 


Fowler seems destined to earn a better offer in free agency than the Jags are willing to compete with. 



I'd address offense by simply drafting the best QB they can manage to get and acquiring O-Line depth by the boatload. They can roll one more year with Parnell and Robinson at Tackle but they had better add depth and developmental guys behind them.  

WR group of Lee, Westbrook, Cole, and Chark isn't bad. A late round pick added will suffice.  I'd try to draft a mid round TE though. ASJ has one more year and he'll need a counterpart.

Church is probably done. His replacement is already here. 

Bouye and Ramsey haven't played to the level of last year, but they are going nowhere. I'd expect them to play much better if they weren't on the field so much. I think a lot of the problem on defense is just fatigue. 

Jackson is probably going nowhere and neither is Campbell. Taven Bryan is nowhere near ready to take over for Campbell. Not even close. 

This coming draft is absolutely loaded with DT talent. There will be excellent run stuffers available all the way into round 3. One guy I particularly like is Raekwon Williams of Michigan State. As a NT, he is a key part of a rush defense which ranks 3rd in the nation. He's not as well known and could be had with a possible 3rd round pick. With that said, there is a big possibility that Dareus will not be a Jaguar in 2019.

I could possibly see a scenario where Gipson is cut, but this is not a good class to draft a Safety. With that said, one alternative might be Bears FS Adrian Amos. He is an UFA at the end of the season and is currently making "peanuts". I think it might be a pretty even trade off with a cheaper price tag. 

Fowler is gone at the end of the season and luckily, like DT, this is a great DE class. After drafting a QB in round 1, I could see us taking the best available DE and DT in the next two rounds. 

A.J. Cann is also a free agent at the end of the year. That leaves a void at RG. Hopefully, we get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Fowler and we can find a rookie RG in round 3. If not, instead of cutting Gipson or Dareus, possibly we can trade them to get some more picks, because we definitely need more depth on the O-Line. I'd use the rest of our picks to "sure-up" the offensive line and add much needed depth.
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Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 08-29-2018, 01:44 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by jvillejagsn1 - 08-29-2018, 01:49 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheDogCatcher - 09-03-2018, 02:02 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Caldrac - 08-29-2018, 03:45 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 08-29-2018, 06:01 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 08-29-2018, 06:11 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 08-29-2018, 06:21 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by knarnn - 08-29-2018, 06:58 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 08-29-2018, 07:03 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 08-30-2018, 11:11 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by El DIABLO - 08-30-2018, 11:13 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 08-30-2018, 11:30 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 08-30-2018, 12:55 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 08-30-2018, 12:59 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 08-30-2018, 01:21 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 08-30-2018, 04:08 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 08-30-2018, 03:04 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 08-30-2018, 03:32 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flsprtsgod - 08-30-2018, 04:16 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JagFanatic24 - 08-30-2018, 04:22 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by scottyg - 08-30-2018, 04:26 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by navyjagfan - 08-31-2018, 06:38 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 08-30-2018, 07:02 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 08-30-2018, 04:51 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 08-30-2018, 05:14 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by jaglyn - 08-30-2018, 07:44 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JUNGLE CAT 2017 - 08-31-2018, 06:31 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Eye of the Storm - 08-31-2018, 07:29 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Jagwired - 08-31-2018, 08:20 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JUNGLE CAT 2017 - 09-02-2018, 09:48 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flsprtsgod - 09-02-2018, 09:59 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 09-02-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-02-2018, 10:29 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JUNGLE CAT 2017 - 09-04-2018, 01:21 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-04-2018, 03:13 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Mikey - 08-31-2018, 08:53 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 08-31-2018, 09:05 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by RicoTx - 08-31-2018, 01:30 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 08-31-2018, 02:10 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 08-31-2018, 02:20 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 08-31-2018, 06:59 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 09-05-2018, 02:50 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 08-31-2018, 02:23 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheBigDawg - 09-01-2018, 05:38 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Dimson - 09-03-2018, 02:50 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 09-04-2018, 11:43 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 09-04-2018, 05:10 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JaguarJosh05 - 09-06-2018, 10:54 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 09-06-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 09-15-2018, 08:54 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by jaguarmvp - 09-15-2018, 09:26 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Jagulars - 09-15-2018, 11:25 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 09-16-2018, 02:56 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by ColoJag - 09-16-2018, 03:57 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 09-16-2018, 09:12 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Senor Fantastico - 09-16-2018, 08:33 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Eric1 - 09-16-2018, 11:41 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 09-16-2018, 08:37 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 09-16-2018, 11:37 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by rocdee - 09-17-2018, 11:34 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Cleatwood - 09-17-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 09-17-2018, 02:40 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 09-17-2018, 03:06 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Fred Jones-Brunell - 09-17-2018, 03:14 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 09-17-2018, 04:00 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Senor Fantastico - 09-17-2018, 04:04 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 09-17-2018, 04:07 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 09-17-2018, 08:16 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by rocdee - 09-18-2018, 08:29 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Cleatwood - 09-18-2018, 08:50 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 09-18-2018, 08:56 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Senor Fantastico - 09-18-2018, 12:00 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 09-18-2018, 12:58 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 09-18-2018, 03:12 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Brett - 09-18-2018, 03:14 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by imtheblkranger - 09-18-2018, 03:40 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 09-18-2018, 04:42 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-18-2018, 05:39 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 09-18-2018, 05:54 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by rocdee - 09-18-2018, 05:42 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 09-18-2018, 08:14 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 09-18-2018, 08:28 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-18-2018, 09:06 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by RicoTx - 09-19-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Eric1 - 09-18-2018, 08:22 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-18-2018, 09:19 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 09-19-2018, 02:38 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-19-2018, 03:09 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by iapetus - 09-19-2018, 03:19 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 09-19-2018, 04:59 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Eric1 - 09-19-2018, 05:39 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Bullseye - 09-19-2018, 06:15 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 09-19-2018, 08:33 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 09-19-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 09-19-2018, 11:45 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-19-2018, 02:16 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 09-19-2018, 02:49 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 09-19-2018, 03:20 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 09-19-2018, 03:24 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by MalabarJag - 09-19-2018, 03:33 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by jaglou53 - 09-20-2018, 11:41 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JagFanatic24 - 09-20-2018, 04:29 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 09-19-2018, 10:11 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by YourFather - 09-20-2018, 12:16 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Cleatwood - 09-19-2018, 05:40 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 09-19-2018, 05:45 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-19-2018, 08:51 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 09-19-2018, 09:20 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheBigDawg - 09-19-2018, 09:02 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-20-2018, 04:59 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-20-2018, 05:19 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 09-20-2018, 05:48 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flsprtsgod - 09-20-2018, 06:53 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Predator - 09-20-2018, 10:30 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Billycool Jag - 09-20-2018, 11:54 AM
Dante Fowler's Future - by minihulk32 - 09-20-2018, 09:53 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Passepartout - 09-20-2018, 10:05 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by jj82284 - 09-22-2018, 10:17 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by nhiverson - 09-23-2018, 10:57 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Eric1 - 10-23-2018, 09:12 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 10-24-2018, 06:23 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 10-24-2018, 06:40 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by jessepeck1213 - 10-24-2018, 11:36 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 10-24-2018, 11:47 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Eric1 - 10-24-2018, 11:41 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 10-24-2018, 07:18 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 10-24-2018, 08:00 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 10-24-2018, 08:08 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 10-24-2018, 09:36 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 10-24-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 10-24-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 10-24-2018, 01:52 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 10-24-2018, 09:30 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 10-24-2018, 11:19 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 10-24-2018, 11:31 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 10-24-2018, 01:53 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 10-24-2018, 01:55 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 10-24-2018, 02:13 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 10-24-2018, 02:19 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 10-24-2018, 02:32 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 10-24-2018, 02:49 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 10-24-2018, 11:55 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 10-24-2018, 12:18 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Kane - 10-24-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Upper - 10-24-2018, 12:58 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by scottyg - 10-24-2018, 01:13 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JagFanFirst - 10-24-2018, 03:01 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 10-24-2018, 03:13 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JagFanFirst - 10-24-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by TheO-LineMatters - 10-24-2018, 03:48 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by NYC4jags - 10-24-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Eric1 - 10-24-2018, 07:07 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 10-24-2018, 08:05 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by JackCity - 10-24-2018, 10:57 PM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 10-25-2018, 06:45 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by FsuClark08 - 10-25-2018, 06:48 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 10-25-2018, 07:06 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by Krayz_Jville_D - 10-25-2018, 08:16 AM
RE: Dante Fowler's Future - by flgatorsandjags - 10-25-2018, 08:40 AM



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