This defense has lost a major step since last year as well.  We can't win against mobile QB's and OC's have found the weakness  on our defense.

Dak had alll day to run or pass on most plays. The defensive line has struggled as much as the secondary

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Defense knows Blake and the Offense sucks so when they give up 17+ it's game over at this point.

12 men on the field for a punt return -- undisciplined !!!

Cole Beasley is a best.  You can only hope to contain him.

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Wash is not the genius that everyone has making him out to be. That is obvious when he makes no adjustments to the game plan and just rushes 4 all game. Looks like we have some dominant players that are forced to play in an ineffective scheme.

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I dont think the defense line is not performing. I think they are being held to the point they cant get there and we do not spy a mobile QB, DE can't catch a running QB most the time, allthough Bryan on 1 play made great effort. If this idiot does not go back to man and spy watson he should he the bricks with the rest of them.

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I think it's hard to play defense sometimes when you know your offense is going to only score 10 points.

They were bad against the Cowboys but other than that, they've been fine.

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They were okay leading up to the Dallas game. They aren't directly leading us to victory. Often they give up conversions and don't maintain positive field position. Our turnover and sack #'s are also waaaaaay down this year. We seem to have lost our competitive edge... this isn't the same opportunistic defense we saw last year. They've been okay for the most part though they were really good last year and just okay not great not bad this year.

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No pain, no gain.

Wash is not the genius that everyone has making him out to be. That is obvious when he makes no adjustments to the game plan and just rushes 4 all game. Looks like we have some dominant players that are forced to play in an ineffective scheme.

That's funny. I remember lots of folks being very apprehensive about Wash being retained and the rest saying "he may do fine outside of Gus' shadow."  I don't remember any "genius" talk at all.

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They were okay leading up to the Dallas game. They aren't directly leading us to victory. Often they give up conversions and don't maintain positive field position. Our turnover and sack #'s are also waaaaaay down this year. We seem to have lost our competitive edge... this isn't the same opportunistic defense we saw last year. They've been okay for the most part though they were really good last year and just okay not great not bad this year.

How many times does the offense put them in positive field position?

Yesterday, the offense had a 3 and out on the first drive. D held them to a field goal even though Gallup had a ridiculous catch. Then the 2nd drive was a 3 and out which led to a punt then a holding call gave the Cowboys 1st down at the 48 I believe.

The defense has been put in god awful starting positions all season. This past game they were on the field the entire first half and then the 2nd half 2 turnovers put them in even worse position.

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In the last 2 weeks the offensive TOP has been 27:17 and 21:10. No surprise that both games weren’t competitive.

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Jaguars Fundamentalist

That's funny. I remember lots of folks being very apprehensive about Wash being retained and the rest saying "he may do fine outside of Gus' shadow."  I don't remember any "genius" talk at all.

I remember people were talking about him getting stolen from the Jags at the end of last season, possibly to be a head coach, due to defensive scheme prowess. Lol. I've seen many people praise him from last year because of the results that we got. His scheme is the same trash it's always been, we just had some good players to make it look better. I just have to wonder if he is in danger of "losing" the defense with the wasted effort.

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That's funny. I remember lots of folks being very apprehensive about Wash being retained and the rest saying "he may do fine outside of Gus' shadow."  I don't remember any "genius" talk at all.

I remember people were talking about him getting stolen from the Jags at the end of last season, possibly to be a head coach, due to defensive scheme prowess. Lol. I've seen many people praise him from last year because of the results that we got. His scheme is the same trash it's always been, we just had some good players to make it look better. I just have to wonder if he is in danger of "losing" the defense with the wasted effort.

Praising a coach for achieving top 5 results in multiple team stat lines and calling him a genius are two radically different things, but whatever. 

I certainly thought he was smart enough to keep his guys from looking so bad yesterday in dallas.  It wasn't all on him, the players made mistakes within the coverages, but Wash should have made more changes than he did and he should have made them sooner.  Linehan had his number.

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Sanders thinks differently than most.

This defensive line has struggled as much as the secondary

http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-j...ity-crisis

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There are receivers running wide open in this crappy zone going back to week 1.  If Eli were a little more accurate we probably lose that one too. 

Ramsey has been beaten like  a red headed step child as late,  The defensive line is getting 0 pressure while our shutdown corners including Bouye has gotten abused.  This team has struggled

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Sanders thinks differently than most.

This defensive line has struggled as much as the secondary

http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-j...ity-crisis

What was different about that?  Echos the same things that are all over this board.

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Sanders thinks differently than most.

This defensive line has struggled as much as the secondary

http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-j...ity-crisis

What was different about that?  Echos the same things that are all over this board.

I was referring to some of who blame the inept offense for the defensive struggles.  I would buy it, it the struggles happened later in the game.  This team has gotten whopped like almost 50-0 in the first half of the last 2 weeks.

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What was different about that?  Echos the same things that are all over this board.

I was referring to some of who blame the inept offense for the defensive struggles.  I would buy it, it the struggles happened later in the game.  This team has gotten whopped like almost 50-0 in the first half of the last 2 weeks.

It's a two way street.  The offense giving the defense short fields and keeping very little t.o.p. is a real issue. Can't ignore it. 
But it's not the main reason the defense is struggling. The defense is struggling because players aren't doing their jobs and coaches aren't putting them in the best position to win according to their strengths at times. 

Plenty of blame to go around, and Sanders said nothing that hasn't been posted here a dozen times already.

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There are receivers running wide open in this crappy zone going back to week 1.  If Eli were a little more accurate we probably lose that one too. 

Ramsey has been beaten like  a red headed step child as late,  The defensive line is getting 0 pressure while our shutdown corners including Bouye has gotten abused.  This team has struggled

I admittedly stopped watching at some point, but seemed to me that Ramsey played fine and Bouye was the one having issues.

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What was different about that?  Echos the same things that are all over this board.

I was referring to some of who blame the inept offense for the defensive struggles.  I would buy it, it the struggles happened later in the game.  This team has gotten whopped like almost 50-0 in the first half of the last 2 weeks.

You do realize (well you most likely don't) that the defense actually held KC to 13 first half points even though 3 of those came when the offense gifted KC amazing field position because of a turnover right? Then Blake threw a pick 6. They held the best offense in football to 10 points in the first half even with the offense doing nothing.

The defense had a bad game against the Cowboys. Not debating that but my god... This offense puts them in terrible situations literally every game. Take yesterday for example.  They allowed 16 second half points. However looking a little deeper, it's pretty incredible. 47 yard drive led to a 46 yard field goal. -6 yard drive for the Cowboys led to a 32 yard field goal.  31 yard drive led to a TD and then a 15 yard drive led to a field goal. So a grand total of 87 yards given up led to 16 points. They easily could have given up at that point given the game was over but they didn't. The D was not good in the 1st half but consistently being on the field will wear you down.

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I thought it was symbolic of how we've lost the intangible luck we had last season when Prescott TWICE put the ball on the ground and it popped right back to him and he turned them into positive gains. WRs are catching everything thrown their way no matter how tight the coverage, linemen can't get off blocks to pressure the QB, and the QBs are running around for 7 to 10 seconds on some plays. It's just been a tough 8 quarters all the way around.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Take a look at time of possession.
D holds (for the most part) early and by 3rd/4th Q they've been on the field a lot and they give up plays.

I'm not letting the D off the hook for this past Sunday by any means. (Wash especially) Saw Taven Bryan spinning around looking for someone to get blocked by while the play was already off in the flat. Campbell can't do it all himself, Yannick showed up, Fowler is whatever... Telvin is not playing at his normal high level. Church has almost been a liability. Patmon isn't good at nickel, imo. Wash just gonna do what he wants instead of what works.

All that being said bout the D...
those issues are either created, magnified, or duplicated due to our offense inept ability to gain a first down much less score. Most of which has to do with the QB playing like [BLEEP]. Much of that attributed to the OL playing like [BLEEP], the OC calling [BLEEP] for a game, and when that stuff clicks, the WRs wanna be [BLEEP].

The bye can't come soon enough. Guys need to get it together. Guys need a goosfrabba meeting.

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